1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

14-year-old girl beaten to death in the name of sharia

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. AroundTheWorld

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    67,671
    Likes Received:
    45,606
    14-year-old girl beaten to death in the name of sharia. Could this be what's in store for Egypt?


    I debated Kamal El Helbawy, a spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood, on The Daily Politics yesterday, pointing out that the Brotherhood has a chequered past, including links with the Nazis in the 1930s and 40s and a long history of virulent anti-Semitism. If Mubarak stepped down and elections were held in Egypt tomorrow, isn’t there a danger that the Muslim Brotherhood would win an outright majority? And if that happened, what guarantee do the Egyptian people have that the Brotherhood would preserve the democratic freedoms that the Egyptian protestors have been clamouring for? The lesson of Iran is that a popular revolutionary movement that begins with the hope of democratic reform can quickly lead to the establishment of a despotic, theocratic regime which is far more oppressive than the secular regime it has replaced. As my colleague Douglas Murray puts it, the danger is that if elections were held in Egypt tomorrow it would be one vote, once. In light of this, it might be in the long term interests of the Egyptian people if Mubarak didn’t step down immediately, giving them sufficient time to properly scrutinise the different groups vying for power, including the Muslim Brotherhood. Be that as it may, it now looks as if the moment for such a compromise has passed.
    The Brotherhood claims to be a moderate party but it makes no bones about the fact that it would try and impose Shariah law on Egypt. A taste of what this might mean for the Egyptian people was recently provided in Bangladesh where a child was beaten to death on the orders of a Muslim cleric. Fourteen-year-old Mosammet Hena was found guilty by a makeshift village court of having an illicit relationship with her 40-year-old cousin and sentenced to 100 lashes. According to the report in today’s Guardian, “Mosammet was dragged inside a house by about 20 to 25 people, including four women. She collapsed unconscious halfway through and was taken to hospital, where she died a week later.”
    Mosammet’s accuser was Shilpi Begum, the wife of the man she’s alleged to have had an affair with. Begum told the court she’d seen Mosammet speaking to her husband – sufficient evidence to sentence her to 100 lashes in the eyes of the shalish court, apparently. In fact, the local media reports that Mosammet was raped by the 40-year-old man and when his wife heard her cries she ran out of her house and started beating her.
    “What sort of justice is this?” asks Mosammet’s father, Dorbesh Khan. “My daughter has been beaten to death in the name of justice.”
    The answer is that this is the sort of justice that could well become the norm in Egypt if the Muslim Brotherhood succeeds in seizing power. We just have to pray that if democratic elections are held in Egypt in the near future, the people aren’t imprudent enough to entrust their future to the Brotherhood.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/t...h-law-could-this-be-whats-in-store-for-egypt/
     
  2. KaiSeR SoZe

    KaiSeR SoZe Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2003
    Messages:
    8,395
    Likes Received:
    39
    Sharia laws are backwards, does anyone NOT question that?
     
  3. AMS

    AMS Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2003
    Messages:
    9,646
    Likes Received:
    218
    This is not Sharia.
     
  4. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2001
    Messages:
    17,417
    Likes Received:
    11,903
    Yes. If the Muslim brotherhood takes over, you would see the systemic cleansing of 14-year-old girls beaten to death in the name of sharia.

    Or you won't. Because Bangladesh is not Egypt, Arab culture is very different from Desi culture, and an isolated incident a continent away is not predictive of the events to unfold.

    Hamas run Gaza might be a better alternative. This is the reality in Gaza: "Gaza City, Gaza Strip - Police order a lingerie shop to hide its scantily clad mannequins. A judge warns female lawyers to wear head scarves in court. Beach patrols break up groups of singles and make men wear shirts." Not exactly death in the name of sharia unless you're a lingerie store owner.
     
    2 people like this.
  5. Qball

    Qball Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2001
    Messages:
    4,151
    Likes Received:
    210
    I think you're reaching here a bit......ok maybe a lot.
     
  6. showtang043

    showtang043 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2008
    Messages:
    859
    Likes Received:
    71
    yea, sharia laws are man made bro, as in the quran doesnt have say anything about them, they are made by people who are usually the issue, not the religion, and this goes for the issues you post, and youll find the same in all the other religions, infact just read an article on this guy, bishop eddie long who used to use the bible to justify him sexually abusing some boys in the church:

    "The lawsuits read "Long would discuss the Holy Scripture to justify and support the sexual activity."[28] Flagg's suit claims that Long presided over a "covenant" ceremony between the two of them. Flagg's attorney said "it was essentially a marriage ceremony, with candles, exchange of jewelry, and biblical quotes."[25]"



    Just because he is sick and has a derranged view and takes things out of context or makes them up to support his horrible views, that is not christianity's problem, that is not any other christians problem, that just hsows how sick this guy is. same goes with the terrorist, sharia, or whoever else, its the same old story with your stuff....your as backward as the guys you post about in terms of being ignorant and entrenched in your views, you guys might get along, go figure.
     
  7. trustme

    trustme Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2007
    Messages:
    1,882
    Likes Received:
    196
    This proves that YOU and whichever idiot wrote this article doesn't know jack about Shariah law. I do know that you know it requires more than one person to be a witness in such a circumstance. If this was Shariah, why would this 'makeshift village court' take the word of one woman, the wife of the man??? Obviously this has nothing to do with Shariah. Good job trying to twist facts to fit your anti-Muslim agenda.

    GTFO ATW.
     
    2 people like this.
  8. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,570
    Makes perfect sense that the best way to anticipate what Muslim in Egypt might do is to look to what happened in Bangladesh, which is a Islamic theocracy.
     
    4 people like this.
  9. AMS

    AMS Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2003
    Messages:
    9,646
    Likes Received:
    218
    repped for taking the time to rip him a new one.


    ATW got pissed of after he got punked in the other thread, and decided to come start a new one filled with anti Moslem hatred.
     
  10. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2001
    Messages:
    17,417
    Likes Received:
    11,903
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Carl Herrera again.
     
  11. thegary

    thegary Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    10,165
    Likes Received:
    2,148
    no, it isn't
     
  12. rtsy

    rtsy Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2010
    Messages:
    979
    Likes Received:
    50

    http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

    About eight-in-ten Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan (82% each) endorse the stoning of people who commit adultery; 70% of Muslims in Jordan and 56% of Nigerian Muslims share this view. Muslims in Pakistan and Egypt are also the most supportive of whippings and cutting off of hands for crimes like theft and robbery; 82% in Pakistan and 77% in Egypt favor making this type of punishment the law in their countries, as do 65% of Muslims in Nigeria and 58% in Jordan.
     
    1 person likes this.
  13. AroundTheWorld

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    67,671
    Likes Received:
    45,606
    trustme, adeelsiddiqui, CarlHerrera et al.
     
  14. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2001
    Messages:
    17,417
    Likes Received:
    11,903
    I wonder what the spread would look like if you inquired about the acceptability of violence as punishment for adultery in the US.

    Not that it matters: A crime of passion, in popular usage, refers to a crime in which the perpetrator commits a crime, especially assault or murder, against someone because of sudden strong impulse such as sudden rage or heartbreak rather than as a premeditated crime. A typical crime of passion might involve an aggressive pub-goer who assaults another guest following an argument and later discovers his wife has made him a cuckold and proceeds to brutally batter or even kill his wife or the man with whom she was involved. In the United States civil courts, a crime of passion is referred to as "temporary insanity".
     
  15. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    17,785
    Likes Received:
    3,393
    Don't feed the trolls.
     
    1 person likes this.
  16. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,619
    Likes Received:
    36,559
    Bangladesh is a secular democratic nation
     
  17. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2000
    Messages:
    21,638
    Likes Received:
    10,545
    I'm against any religion having any influence in government but I wouldn't single out muslims. Look at the abuses of the Catholic Church for example.
     
  18. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    47,619
    Likes Received:
    36,559
    infact out of all the Muslim majority nations Bangladesh is one of the most secular. The prime minister of Bangladesh is a .....women.
     
  19. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2001
    Messages:
    17,417
    Likes Received:
    11,903
    SO IT CAN ONLY GET WORSE FROM HERE>>>>
     
  20. trustme

    trustme Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2007
    Messages:
    1,882
    Likes Received:
    196

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I love how you group together all the people, by name, within a thread who have spoken out against you. You share a lot of qualities with dictators.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now