14 more today. 43 US Soldiers killed in Last 10 Days in Iraq

Nope, I am not a photoshop artist.

 

"Can you imagine what would have happened, if the liberals were around during WWII"
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Isn't this guy the founding father of the liberal movement?

 

Yeah, we might have entered the war full force after we were attacked and bolstered the allies to the point that they could win the war.

Wait, wasn't that exactly what happened with the liberals in charge of the whole thing?

 

traitor_j,

During WWII able-bodied young men who supported the war effort signed up for the military en masse. Why is it you're still stateside?

 

Yes that is a good point and I think you're right that part of the problem is that they haven't had the experience of living in a democracy. You might also be right that we might be looking at generations but then does that mean we stay in Iraq for generations until they can become a stable democracy?

I don't think even the most ardent hawks here would advocate that.

 

We would have attacked those who actually attacked us, rather than attacking "someone who tried to kill my daddy" and using lies to ramp up support for it.

Any questions?

 

Ahh, T_J showcasing his knowledge of history.

Now I know why T_J avoids any debate based on real knowledge, not just partisan rhetoric that the far-right are good at, which doesn't require them to debate anything based on its merits/evidence available.

 

i'm not trying to back TJ here, but glynch does have a way of posting these articles and it comes off as if he is acting more like 'i told you so' rather than 'man this is horrible and sickens my stomach'.

 

How is that? He posted the article with a brief synopsis of it in one sentence at the top. How exactly did this come off as "I told you so" unless you are already anti-glynch???

EDIT: And he hasn't even posted in this thread since the original article posting.

 

Are you really trying to compare WWII to YOUR Iraq war?

Did Iraq come to our soil and attack us?

WWII was a defensive war for America. Iraq war is not.

 

I'm not pro or anti-glynch. Though, he does post a lot of dogma and rhetoric kind of like bigtexxx. Anyhow...when you post or talk about stuff online and when you have a pattern to the stuff that you post then when you post something like this it comes off as an 'I told you so' to me. Which means that I feel many of glynch's posts are done in that sort of fashion or at least that they come off that way to me.

It happens like that online...things get perceived the wrong way when people don't preface things or put insane amounts of smilies or other emoticons to let people know what their statements mean.

 

That's funny, been following the board for three years, and it exactly comes off as " I told you so" ............you really can't see that ?

 

FDR was one of if not THE most liberal presidents in american history. There was a coup planned by the Right led by the richest men in america because they feared he his liberal beliefs.

God be with the families and soldiers, these loses are criminal, since this is an unjust war that we were lied to so that oil companies could take advantage of the second largest oil reserves in the world. We can't just leave but those who started this should be held responsible.

 

I would like to second this post!

 

How is this ~ "I told you so" ?
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Seeing the recent increase in troop deaths in Iraq got me thinking that something is changing over there for the worse. This something I would want to discuss or read about here in the D & D ~ so what's the problem?

 

No doubt FDR was a liberal, but he wasn't a rabid anti-war liberal like the types we see today. Hundreds of thousands of Americans lost their lives during WWII. Can you imagine the reaction if these anti-war people we have today were around back then, selectively trumpeting news stories every time a soldier died? We are currently engaged in one of the most efficient war operations ever. What are the libs doing? Complaining. SELECTIVELY posting stories every time something bad happens. Do you know what that makes it look like? It makes it look like these liberals are REJOICING over bad news. "Hey, more troops died today! Time to spread the news! I'll rush over to the internet chat boards and post a new thread!" Why not root for your own country? Why not recognize that the military is doing their best (and doing a great job) of suppressing casualties?

glynch, if we were to keep score, it might look like this:
50 -- Number of threads started to announce that troops died or failed in some fashion
0 -- Number of threads started to announce a good deed or a successful mission accomplished by the troops

Something is wrong there....

 

I'll break the goose-egg for you, Jorgie-boy:



Happy now?

 

There is something wrong with someone who cliams to be sa huge supporter of the troops but won't codemn the inefficiency of not using the plan from the state department that General Garner wanted to use, and would have prevented much of the trouble and loss of troops lives we have seen in Iraq.

 

In the recent past of US history Liberals were the internationalist and the interventionist and Conservatives were the isolationist, you know "don't get caught up in European wars!" I guess it must have changed in the latter stages of the Viet Nam War when LBJ quit the re-election race.Viet Nam expanded by Democrats (liberals) and ended by Republicans because it was politcally expedient.

Carry on