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[11/19] D. Morey on 610 this Morning

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CheezeyBoy22, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. ParaSolid

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    Al Jeff is a scorer only. He doesn't pass and doesn't rebound at an elite level. If Yao is in our long term plans, I don't see the value of having an all-star level post player (Jefferson) planted in the high post area shooting jumpers.
     
  2. studogg

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    he was referencing the fact that he leads the team in scoring, when he thought that it would be Aaron or Scola
     
  3. H-townhero

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    Honestly, Ariza is still hesitant, and because of that he makes some bad shots. He also has a very weak 1 on 1 game, I wonder how bad they thought he was when they signed him. :confused:
     
  4. Spacemoth

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    Kahn's going to paralyze his front office into oblivion for fear that everyone is trying to shortchange him. He's already my most hated GM for drafting Rubio just to keep him out of the hands of the other 29 teams, and then not signing him. What a dirtbag thing to do to the league.
     
  5. leebigez

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    Charges are not better than blks, period. If they were, the sonics wouldve beaten the denver team in 94. That's denver teams wasn't a good defensive team, but they had a guy who could change shots at the rim. Blocks are intimidating and game changers. I think charges are good, but just like in football, you want to stay on your feet as much as possible. Dream would close the lane down and it wasn't because he's waiting on a charge. Go look at the opponets conversion rate inside vs when yao or deke was in the paint.Teams aren't penetrating looking for the charge guy. Don't drink the kooli aid.
     
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  6. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Where did I say it was better to draw charges than to have a shot blocker and shot altering big guy in the middle? I watched Dream in college, so I don't need a lecture on whether he was looking to draw a charge or get the block, or which was more intimidating. I do, however, think it should be a stat, just like a block is, an assist, or a turnover.

    Hey, I missed your fulsome praise of Scola's game last night.
     
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  7. rimrocker

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    From a pure stats perspective, yes they are. Blocks erase an attempted FG but may or may not result in a turnover while charges always do the double duty of getting a foul on the oppositiion and creating a turnover.

    From a game perspective, sometimes yes, sometimes no... it depends.
     
  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    LOL. Am trying to picture a team that draws as many charges as '94 Denver had blocks. It's really cracking me up, like Deckard blocking shots with his dome -- it's almost that funny.

    Picture a tight 4th quarter. Payton brings the ball up, pass to McKey. McKey with a move. Oh! A charge! That's the fifth charging foul this quarter!

    EDIT: furthermore, it would be a Sonics team so SCARED of charges, that they quit making cuts or even moving fast at all, letting the shot clock expire. :grin:
     
  9. Deckard

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    Ha ha, B-Bob, freakin' hilarious. If it wins a game, who gives a flying "fill in the blank?"
     
  10. B-Bob

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    LOL! Dude, we were going to be the twin towers of blocking shots with our heads. Epic, but like my bluegrass band, Vern.com, it never materialized.
     
  11. leebigez

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    I just finished watching the game and he played great. He rebounded well and did his thing. Deckard, just because I don't really have a favorite rocket doesn't mean I don't like guys. I think u misunderstand when I talk about scola and that's cool. I think he's as good as he's going to get given his age and his progress so far. That's doesn't mean I don't think he's a good player. I just think that by the time the rockets are ready to really make some noise a decision will have to be made on whether to pay scola 6m per or lose landry the younger guy that's improving. I guess we could do what utah is doing with milsap and boozer, but that's rare.

    On the blk vs charge thing, I never said they were the same or charges weren't important, but I don't buy into the idea that morey and gene said they're better cause you get the ball back. I do think its good to get the ball back, but its also important to have guys missing layups or getting them blocked. What phoenix did the other night was wake up and say, "they have no shot blockers" and they started attacking the rim and getting fouled or converting. There maybe should be a stat I guess, but don't we have enough stats already?
     
  12. Deckard

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    Not according to Durvasa! :p
     
  13. W22_STREAK

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    charges are great.....but BORING....

    imagine this..tony parker drives into the lane...spins...cups the ball...takes 2 long strides.....takes the ball up towards to rim...

    option 1: REJECTED BY D-HO!!! BLOCKED DAT **** LYK A MOFO!!! SWATTED IN2 THE 35TH ROW OF THE STANDS!!! BENCH ALL RISES AND THE CROWED GOES WILD!!! Mr Longoria is left there winding about how his weak sauce got swatted and never goes into the lane again bricking 3's

    option 2: Bumps into Derek Fisher...whissssstle!!! CHARGE! Players crashes over each others head and ankles and a mess of players end up tripping piled up on the floor...Everyone disperses away from the action lyk osmosis and the ball is confiscated by Joey Crawford who waits for a whole minute before the game get underway again with a lame sidelines throw-in...The broomboy comes in with his 50 incher and wipes the floor
     
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    ^^^which one would you prefer????
     
  15. Entropy

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    Option 2.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Woah what?

    What?

    You now LIKE Scola....Huh.....now who was it that said he was not that good to begin with and the Rockets should get a better athlete at the PF spot.

    Oh, oh, I remember....you.

    :D

    DD
     
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    Charges better than blocks? Somewhere, Dikembe Mutombo is shaking his head in disgust. ;)
     
  18. Deckard

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    DD, we don't agree on everything, as you know, but we do agree on the value of Scola to the team (and were both early fans of Air Bud). Like I just posted in another thread somewhere, Scola is a year younger than Leeb thinks he is and hasn't lost a step like Battier has. In fact, Luis has gotten better every season he's been in the league. He's almost averaging a double-double, hasn't missed a game since joining the team, keeps learning, keeps improving, and is in the prime of his career. The way he plays, the way he's built, I personally think he'll continue to play at a high level for some years, and it wouldn't surprise me if he kept improving. I just wish he'd take some summers off.
     
  19. leebigez

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    DD, you've never heard me ever say I didn't like scola. I just said he's at his peak. His improvements are small because he's older.

    Deckard, don't confuse upgrading a guy to not liking the guy. I just think what we see now is what we will see 3 yrs from now. When u chart his development to landry's its not even close.I think scola is the better rebounder and landry is a far better offensive player and both are avg at defense. There will be economic decisions made this summer. I would rather lose scola than landry. If its close,which it is, you take the younger player with production in my book.
     
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    When will Morey trade for David West? Decent passer, shooter, and can rebound.
     

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