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10 Worst Moments in American History

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by MacBeth, Apr 19, 2003.

  1. No Worries

    No Worries Member

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    That is not true at all. You just needed to look into more bars and you would found him.
     
  2. SLIMANDTRIM

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    Trail of Tears
     
  3. Heretic

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    Pearl Harbor
    9/11
    Patriot Acts 1 and 2




    Presidents are easily replaceable, which is why I wouldn't rate their assassinations as serious events.
     
  4. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    I'll add the Sacco and Vanzetti trial/debacle.

    To this day, it is highly, HIGHLY questionable that these 2 men were guilty of any crime.

    The only thing that they were guilty of was being born in a country outside the US.

    That was 10 times worse than McCarthyism.
     
  5. R0ckets03

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    I know its probably not up there, but what about the MLK assasination?
     
  6. UTweezer

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    1. The systematic rape, pilliage and destruction put on the American Indians.
     
  7. rockHEAD

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    good topic...

    there are lots of bad things that happened in American History...
     
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  8. johnheath

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    LOL, the Patriot Act??

    btw, to of you talking about a "stolen" election in 2000. Does it matter to you that the votes were recounted by several independent news sources, and Bush still won?
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Here are some things. I don't agree that all of these are the worst, but the car bomb thing might be up there.
    http://hightower.fmp.com/weblogitem.php?id=153
    Global Politics Quiz

    1) Which is the only country in the world to have dropped bombs on over twenty different countries since 1945?

    2) Which is the only country to have used nuclear weapons?

    3) Which country was responsible for a car bomb which killed 80 civilians in Beirut in 1985, in a botched assassination attempt, thereby making it the most lethal terrorist bombing in modern Middle East history?

    4) Which country's illegal bombing of Libya in 1986 was described by the UN Legal Committee as a "classic case" of terrorism?

    5) Which country rejected the order of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to terminate its "unlawful use of force" against Nicaragua in 1986, and then vetoed a UN Security Council resolution calling on all states to observe international law?

    6) Which country was accused by a UN-sponsored truth commission of providing "direct and indirect support" for "acts of genocide" against the Mayan Indians in Guatemala during the 1980s?

    7) Which country unilaterally withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty in December 2001?

    8) Which country renounced the efforts to negotiate a verification process for the Biological Weapons Convention and brought an international conference on the matter to a halt in July 2001?

    9) Which country prevented the United Nations from curbing the gun trade at a small arms conference in July 2001?

    10) Aside from Somalia, which is the only other country in the world to have refused to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child?

    11) Which is the only Western country which allows the death penalty to be applied to children?

    12) Which is the only G7 country to have refused to sign the 1997 Mine Ban Treaty, forbidding the use of landmines?

    13) Which is the only G7 country to have voted against the creation of the International Criminal Court (ICC) in 1998?

    14) Which was the only other country to join with Israel in opposing a 1987 General Assembly resolution condemning international terrorism?

    15) Which country refuses to fully pay its debts to the United Nations yet reserves its right to veto United Nations resolutions?



    Answer to all 15 questions:
    The United States of America.
     
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  10. UTweezer

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    CIA introducing crack-cocaine into Harlem and other inner-cities
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Interesting that out of all the blacks who have been unjustly run out of court rooms and immediately lynched that some people claim the O.J. trial is the worst example of American justice.
     
  12. Two Sandwiches

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    I may have just not seen it, but where is the Oklahoma City bombing?

    Edit: I see it now.

    This edit tool is sooo nifty.:)
     
  13. johnheath

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    Well FranchiseBlade,

    1. Who does the world run to when problems arise? Who acts as policemen for the UN?

    2. Which country saved millions of American and Japanese lives by dropping atomic weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, thus avoiding a invasion of Japan?

    3. This is far from the most lethal terrorist bombing in Middle Eastern history. I guess you don't remember the Marine barracks bombing in Beirut that killed 3 times as many people?

    Also, the United States did not place the car bomb, but the author of this little list probably does care to let facts get in the way of his bias.

    4. Libya had just blown up a Pan Am 747. Thank you Mr. Reagan for putting Libya in its place.

    5. pass

    6. Fighting Communism was an ugly war.

    7. This is too silly to address. We are the strongest country, and we will only sign treaties that beneficial to us.

    8. We need to maintain our WMD, until ALL other countries dispose of their WMD. We must defend ourselves until irresponsible governments disappear from the face of the Earth.

    9. See 2nd amendment.

    10. pass

    11. agreed. I am against the death penalty too.

    12. We need land mines to defend our troops in South Korea.

    13. We will not allow our soldiers and politicians to be tried in courts controlled by countries such as France and Syria.

    14. lol, Syria and Iran, among others, were trying to label Israel as an "international terrorist". That was a joke, and we were right to stand by Israel.

    15. We pay the bulk of the costs for the UN, an organization that continually stabs us in the back. We should scrap the UN, and start over.
     
  14. johnheath

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    This is a lie that rivals Holocaust revisionism. You should be ASHAMED for posting this in public.
     
  15. UTweezer

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    Easy there killer. It's called a joke.
     
  16. Two Sandwiches

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    I don't wanna go too off topic, but why are people against the death penalty? If you kill somoene, you should be killed yourself. I like an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. We shoulda put Mcveigh(sp?) in a building and blown it up with a car bomb. As for terrorists, we should fly a remote control plane with a bomb strapped to it into their cell...when they are least expecting it. I have no respect for killers.

    I will even go as far to say that those frickin sick minded people with AIDS that go and rape others...they should be shot once they are caught. They basically committed murder...
     
  17. No Worries

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    why are people against the death penalty?

    If killing another person is wrong (arguably the worst thing one person can do to another), why is it OK for the government to kill?
     
  18. Two Sandwiches

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    I agree with and respect that, but if someone kills someone else, I dont think it is right for them to be able to live out the rest of their life. If you kill someone you should not be able to just sit around the rest of your life in a prison cell. That's even more wrong than the death penalty, IMO.
     
  19. MacBeth

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    I am against it for several reasons;

    1) As NW said, wrong is wrong.

    2) The moment we, as a society, execute one innocent person, and we have done so to countless, we are, by any definition, guilty of murder...and should, in an eye for an eye society, all be killed. We can't just call it an unfortunate mistake because we did it systemically; we would never pardon a murderer who pleaded innocent by virtue of later thinking it was an accident. You can't take back an excecution.

    3) Studies show that more violent crimes are committed in societies that have the death penalty; most likely because when you, as a society, say that killing someone is a reasonable response to a wrong, they are more likely to think that on a personal level, as well as the fact that, in a death penalty society, once you have committed one murder, and your life is forfeit, what's to stop you from doing it again?

    4) Studies also show that in a death penalty society, there are more people guilty of severe crimes walking the streets, as juries are significantly less likely to convict if the death penalty is the sentance.

    5) I think that, if after all this time, and civilization, we are still left with ending someone's lifesapn as a means of redressin wrongs, it is among the greatest possible condemnations of our real level of development. I understand the emotion of wanting to do it when someone seems beyond the pale, like a serial murderer, or when it's personal...but that is emotion, and law should be based on reason.
     
  20. No Worries

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    What if the government screws up? It is really hard to redress the situation, after the fact. You might want to check out a documentary called _A Thin Blue Line_ (1988).
     

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