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10 reasons why Chris Bosh should consider the Houston Rockets his top choice.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Raven, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. sealclubber1016

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    Even with Toronto's soft standards, i don't think they are stupid enought to play a 5-11 guy big minutes at the two, he can play small spurts there, but with calderon and jack he would have to play the two. And i agree Jack is only an OK starter, but i think he would make a good backup to Lowry
     
  2. steddinotayto

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    So Toronto's too smart to play Aaron Brooks starter's minutes? That must mean Adelman was an idiot for putting Brooks out there to 30+ a night. Fact of the matter is, just because he's small doesn't mean he can't score and that's what Toronto's "offense" is all about--scoring. So he has to play the two while Calderon and Jack plays point. I'm quite certain Brooks and Lowry were on the court for a good amount of time this past season and it was, IIRC, one of the better backcourt sets we had during the season.

    Oh don't get me wrong--I don't expect Lowry to penetrate every single time. But I also don't expect Lowry to not work on his outside shooting this year, knowing that he has to improve that facet of his game before he can be a starter for any NBA team. Hell, Tony Parker's shooting improved dramatically over the years. I don't expect Lowry to be the player of Parker's caliber but I think it's safe to expect Lowry to have some room for improvement in regards to his shooting.

    Of course, this all becomes a dead issue if the Rockets somehow gets Bosh without giving up Brooks or (as I stated before) the Rockets decides Calderon can effectively run the point and somehow gets Bosh and Calderon in one trade.
     
  3. jump shooter

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    Does Bosh make the rockets that much better than what Sco-Hill gives them? Sacrificing a piece of one of the better backcourts in the league and also most improved player has got to be a move that throws the rockets right over the top. Personally I don't think Bosh is the player that can throw this team right over the top, especially if you have to give up your top assets to do that.
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    Adelman played Brooks and Lowry together for 10-15 minutes a game. With Jack and Calderon he would have to play ALL of his minutes at the two.
     
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    we probably have to trade our 2011 swapping right, the Knicks 2012 pick, Budinger, Battier or Jeffries (they are not gonna be interested in Ariza, they liked him as a complement to Bosh, not by himself), Jordan Hill, and something else. The something else would be as big as Aaron Brooks (and starting Lowry / bringing conroy up from the d-league), or perhaps having Scola agree to the sign-and-trade as well. So basically, they get a solid vet, an expiring deal, 2 picks, and talented sophs. We then either take a hard look at Przybilla (who will probably be easy to nab, low value because of missing the season, and Portland probably won't be as interested in him given that they still want to test the metal of Oden and just extended Camby's contract) or Brad Miller for our backup big needs.

    Despite all of this, we're probably all going to be ooing and awing at what Morey does to nab someone crucial to a championship run this summer, and not predict it (just like the Landry, Lowry and Artest trades).
     
  6. Raven

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    You can win a series with good players and depth, but you need a star to win a championship. Even if Brooks turns out to be a legitimate star, he'll always be undersized. Bosh will be 27 next Spring. He's a big man. He's a legitimate star. He's in his prime. He'll be playing at an elite level for the duration of his new contract. He's not a top five player, but no top five player is realistically available. If Morey can acquire him without giving up Brooks, then the Rockets would have Martin, Brooks, and Bosh, and that's a core that can challenge in the West.
     
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    What Raptors fans are saying over on RealGM (and this is just a few pages):

    "I'd much rather we use Bosh to get picks and gain flexibility at this point - that means using him to dump Hedo's contract. I think Houston is one of the few teams that can accommodate that." --Kreamy

    "If CB wants to leave I think the best bet for us is Houston, and don't think Morey doesn't know it. ... Houston, we could get anything but Brooks and Yao" --theonlyeastcoastrapsfan

    "I hope if there is a deal done, it's Houston. They have the assets that we need. Plus, I'd love to see Bosh paired up with Yao & Martin. If Yao was healthy, they'd become an instant contender." --MEDIC

    "Ideally the Raps send him west like Houston for the best save face scenario." --OAKLEY_2

    "But Houston is looking more and more likely to me. Two draft picks, Hill, Jeffries, and filler." --SkywalkerAC

    "On a more serious note, I'd be quite intrigued by a Houston package consisting of Hill, Jeffries, 1st Rd Pick 2010 NY, 1st Rd Pick 2010 Houston + rights to Llull for Chris Bosh. If we could somehow get Brooks too while dumping Calderon on them, that would be great, but perhaps asking for a little too much." --HEKTOR

    Seems like Raptors fans are looking at Houston seriously, too, just as we are looking at Chris Bosh. But are the GM's? Surely...
     
  8. Raven

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    Brooks, Hill, Chase. They can have one, but not all three.

    :)
     
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    The rox canget jefferson for less and serve the same service. If the rox have to gie up brooks,chase,and hill with the uncertainty of yao is a bad mix.
     
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    Interesting.

    Hill, Jeffries and two first round picks is definitely doable. It leaves Houston with its core players intact, while giving Toronto a good start on their rebuilding process.
     
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    ^^
    Sorry for the double post but I just realized that the package above of Hill, Jeffries and picks is virtually what Morey got from the Knicks in the McGrady deal.

    It would be beyond ironic if Morey were able to keep NY from getting Chris Bosh by using the assets NY gave away in order to make enough cap space to land...Bosh. :grin:
     
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    I disagree with this.

    We have no idea what it takes to get Jefferson. Its assumed Granger was enough to the get the deal done, but it never materialized.

    With Bosh, in most previous SnT situations, it cost the receiving team far less than a Granger caliber player.

    Its my personal belief that it would take less to get Bosh than Jefferson.
     
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    The fans of both sides can propose trade ideas for both sides, but it all comes down to, Does Bosh want to play in Houston ? I think closer to July we'll know alot more about whats going to happen with Bosh.
     
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    Bosh> Jefferson.

    Enough Said.

    Why go for the stars when you can go for the moon?
     
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    Thanks! I always like reading what the other team's fans are saying about a potential deal. I'm a little surprised. Was that the common reaction there? They certainly aren't asking for the moon, except for the fellow hoping we'd take Turkey Glue's contract. Maybe it's representative of the collective "wisdom" of that particular forum. ;)
     
  16. ASidd_1990

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    If Toronto asked us to take back one of their bad contracts, who would you rather have? Calderon or Hedo?

    Hedo has played for Adelman before and knows his system, but Calderon would be a good back up point guard for insurance reasons.
     
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    I don't think Les would take either one of those anchor contacts. Calderon is a good offensive option but he plays zero defense, even less than AB. Turkoglu is a good all around player, and suprisingly not a terrible defender, if they were willing to take back Ariza i wouldn't mind taking him on, if it got us Bosh.
     
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    I'd pass on both, but given no chance to avoid one of the two, I'd take Calderon. Why? About $15 million reasons. This past season, Turkey Glue made $9 million. Calderon made $8.2 million. During the 2013/2014 season, Turkey will be pulling in $12 million. Not a misprint. He'll be 35 freakin' years old. Calderon's contract ended the year before. The difference between the two contracts, in total, is right at $15 million. Man, the Raptors were insane to do that deal. Hell, after considering that, there's no telling how stupid they will be moving Mister Bosh.
     
  19. Francis3422

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    Personally I like Hedo. Is it possible for Bosh to be signed and traded with Hedo?

    I would say if you take Hedo you give away Ariza (they take on less money but also a lengthy deal). And I dont think we would have the contracts without giving away both defensive wings.

    But if Hedo+Bosh for Jeffries/Ariza/Hill/Andersen +2010 lotto pick and 2010 first rounder would get the deal done I would probably take it. They clear some cap after this year and get 2 young players and a crappy center.

    Yao/Scola/Hayes
    Bosh/Scola/Hayes
    Hedo/Battier/
    Martin/Budinger
    Brooks/Lowry

    Looks like a good lineup to me. Logic says that Battier would start, but I have to think that Hedo is good enough to have to start over Shane.
     
  20. larsv8

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    I doubt Bosh concents to come here if Hedo comes with him. Rumor is, he hates him.
     

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