1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

10 reasons why Chris Bosh should consider the Houston Rockets his top choice.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Raven, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. meh

    meh Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    16,175
    Likes Received:
    3,388
    Not really. Morey has made it clear that for a long time now that he wants Bosh. He even said at the deadline that Houston was willing to trade for Bosh WITHOUT an extension in place.

    Getting Bosh has always been Morey's Plan A, B, and C. Unless of course Lebron or Wade comes out of nowhere to declare their interest in us.
     
  2. leebigez

    leebigez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,812
    Likes Received:
    786
    Eh, just keepin' it real :grin: In all seriousness, even if we are serious and morey shows up at 1201 midnight, i think there are better options. Buecher talked about giving up core pieces and he's partly right about ok city, but giving up jeff green isnt that big of a deal to me to get bosh. If green was taking the same up curve as westbrook, then i can see the point, but he's lamar odom. Thats good and bad and what makes him so frustrating. When he plays well, they are very hard to beat, but his inconsistent play is going to cost them if they hold onto him. The chance to get bosh to play with durant and westbrook is way too enticing than haggling of green.

    I think yao is a good player when healthy. Its always about when healthy though. Not only that,assumming yao will be effective and play for the next 5 years is a huge stretch.
     
  3. platy

    platy Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    4
    lol i always expect some sort negative yao comment with any of his post ;) you will get used to it
     
  4. leebigez

    leebigez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,812
    Likes Received:
    786
    Just telling the truth. He is a wannabe franchis player who spend more time at the tailor and hot tub than leading the team somewhere. There have never been a franchise built on such a bad foundation. Its not going to get better either. 2 full season missed since 05. I dont have to lie about that, just count the games. 30 games here,30 games there,82 games here. I guess i can put my head in the sand and pretend they didnt happen like the other apologist.
     
  5. Jerry36

    Jerry36 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    1,525
    Likes Received:
    67
    If the rockets were to get Bosh, Scola will not be here. It will be to many nice sized contracts. Bosh,Kmart,Scola, with Yao and Brooks next in line.
     
  6. meh

    meh Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    16,175
    Likes Received:
    3,388
    Les is on board with spending. He'll make back all the luxury tax payments and then some if the Rockets make a huge run in the playoffs.
     
  7. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    29,680
    Likes Received:
    10,158
    If?? When. ;)
     
  8. jump shooter

    jump shooter Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2000
    Messages:
    5,429
    Likes Received:
    145
    Wow, I never heard Morey say Chris Bosh was his plan A, B and C. You obviously must know some inside information that the rest of us don't know.
     
  9. Jerry36

    Jerry36 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    1,525
    Likes Received:
    67
    I don't see the thunder doing a sign & trade without giving core pieces.
     
  10. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2001
    Messages:
    19,116
    Likes Received:
    20,870
    Make me feel better and give me an article link where Morey said Brooks won't be traded or where it says Brooks is untouchable.
     
  11. Convictedstupid

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2008
    Messages:
    4,963
    Likes Received:
    512
    How much could Toronto REALLY demand for Bosh?

    Bosh is going give Colangelo a list of teams and hopefully we are on it. Ive just been thinking and I dont see how they can ask a kings ransom for him. Last year they could. But now they run the risk of losing him for nothing.

    I know I am being biased and probably straight crazy but I was wondering if our 14th pick + Jermaine + JJ and other filler could nab him. Only reason I am proposing this preposterous deal is just because I am not sure how much we improve while gutting our team to get him.

    I believe whole-heartedly Morey will try and lowball them if he is indeed interested in Bosh. I guess I am just wondering if I am crazy to think that the Raptors dont have that much wiggle room when asking how much they could get for him. I believe he is gone either way though.

    Someone please correct me.
     
  12. Raven

    Raven Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    14,984
    Likes Received:
    1,025
    Toronto will demand Brooks. That doesn't mean Morey has to cough him up. I suspect that a trade involving Luis, Chase, 1 good pick, and filler would be enough.

    Also, I haven't forgotten Morey's fascination with Little Ricky.
     
  13. daeyeth

    daeyeth Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,140
    Likes Received:
    28
    No. Any deal for Bosh is gonna require at least one star. For us that's Yao, Scola, Brooks, or KMart.
     
  14. Convictedstupid

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2008
    Messages:
    4,963
    Likes Received:
    512

    I realize how dumb that deal is and I wasnt wanting people to focus on that specific deal.

    You didnt really though, but my main question is how much can the Raptors ask for? I mean, can they really have their cake AND eat it now? Now that Bosh is probably gone regardless?
     
  15. JBIIRockets

    JBIIRockets Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2001
    Messages:
    6,358
    Likes Received:
    48
    I would rather keep Scola.

    I dont see how Bosh improves the Rockets that much.

    If the Rockets want a new 4, I'd prefer Stoudamire.
     
  16. ASidd_1990

    ASidd_1990 Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2010
    Messages:
    3,732
    Likes Received:
    87
    Personally, I think Amare is a bum and an assh0le!

    I'd prefer Bosh anyday of the week. He is a much better defender and rebounder than both Scola and Amare.
     
  17. Raven

    Raven Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    14,984
    Likes Received:
    1,025
    Bosh over Amare any day of the week.
     
  18. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    Use common sense.

    Why would Morey offer up Brooks to Toronto when its not necesary to get the deal done? Morey is the master of understanding what other teams positions and motivations are. It makes me laugh when people say trade Brooks or Yao for Bosh. Sign and trades are never for equal value, because the nature of the transaction is not meant work that way.

    This isn't a deadline trade where multiple teams bid and the best offer gets the trade. This is CB4 deciding where he wants to go and the Raptors accomodating him so they atelast get something back instead of nothing. They have already stated they are willing to work with him in getting the deal done.

    Here are the facts:
    1.) The Rockets HAVE to send over atleast 12.86 million dollars in contracts to make the deal work under the current CBA. This is unavoidable.
    2.) The Raptors MUST take back that 12.86 million to make it work.
    3.) The Rockets must send enough goodies back to justify Toronto absorbing the extra salary, which they otherwise wouldnt of had if they just let him walk.

    They key is the salary sent over. How do you mitigate it so you have to offer less goodies? There are multiple avenues which Morey can utilize to make this work.

    How about this hypothetical: send over Jeffries with 3 million cash, have Toronto buy him out with the 3 million and then use the MLE to sign him back for one year @ 3 million. It costs Toronto nothing, Jeffries gets 3 million from us via Toronto's buyout, 1 million from the trade kicker, then another 3 million from the new contract. His situation hasnt changed a bit, he doesnt have to do anyhing and he walks aways with a cool 200 grand over his existing 6.8 million contract.

    How about Non guaranteed contracts? James Jones of Miami a 4.6 million one, Delfino in Milwaukee has a 3.5 million n.g. contract, Gomes (4.3m) in Minnessota. What would it take to snag them away? What if we offered up Andersen and his non guaranteed contract for any of those? Maybe sweeten the deal with a pick.

    Combine those two scenarios and you have accumulated almost 11 million in phantom salary that can be used to get the deal done. Add in a sweetner like Hill or Budinger and you have just about covered the salary requirement.

    And this is just what I can come up with in a few minutes. Morey knows 10x as many tricks as I do.

    So I ask you, why in the world would Morey offer up Brooks or Yao in any Bosh deal? It just isnt necesary.
     
  19. Raven

    Raven Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    14,984
    Likes Received:
    1,025
    You're right. Bosh will force their hand. He wants to play for a winner, and won't allow his next team to be gutted in order acquire him.
     
  20. daeyeth

    daeyeth Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,140
    Likes Received:
    28
    The most Bosh is going to affect any details of the trade is which team he'll be going to, that's it. Players don't negotiate contracts. On the other hand, the agent of the player will have something to say about that as they are shrewd, calculating businessmen who will make sure their clients gets the most money in the best situation.
     

Share This Page