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10 Places NOT to Use Your Debit Card

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Maybe some old news to some, but could be helpful. I always my debit card everywhere I go....

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-bu...o-use-your-debit-card?mod=bb-checking_savings

1. Online

"You don't use a debit card online," says Susan Tiffany, director of consumer periodicals for the Credit Union National Association. Since the debit card links directly to a checking account, "you have potential vulnerability there," she says.

Her reasoning: If you have problems with a purchase or the card number gets hijacked, a debit card is "vulnerable because it happens to be linked to an account," says Linda Foley, founder of the Identity Theft Resource Center. She also includes phone orders in this category.

The Federal Reserve's Regulation E (commonly dubbed Reg E), covers debit card transfers. It sets a consumer's liability for fraudulent purchases at $50, provided they notify the bank within two days of discovering that their card or card number has been stolen.

Most banks have additional voluntary policies that set their own customers' liability with debit cards at $0, says Nessa Feddis, vice president and senior counsel for the American Bankers Association.

But the protections don't relieve consumers of hassle: The prospect of trying to get money put back into their bank account, and the problems that a lower-than-expected balance can cause in terms of fees and refused checks or payments, make some online shoppers reach first for credit cards.

2. Big-Ticket Items

With a big ticket item, a credit card is safer, says Chi Chi Wu, staff attorney with the National Consumer Law Center. A credit card offers dispute rights if something goes wrong with the merchandise or the purchase, she says.

"With a debit card, you have fewer protections," she says.

In addition, some cards will also offer extended warrantees. And in some situations, such as buying electronics or renting a car, some credit cards also offer additional property insurance to cover the item.

Two caveats, says Wu. Don't carry a balance. Otherwise, you also risk paying some high-ticket interest. And "avoid store cards with deferred interest," Wu advises.

3. Deposit Required

When Peter Garuccio recently rented some home improvement equipment at a big-box store, it required a sizable deposit. "This is where you want to use a credit card instead of a debit," says Garuccio, spokesman for the national trade group American Bankers Association.

That way, the store has its security deposit, and you still have access to all of the money in your bank account. With any luck, you'll never actually have to part with a dollar.

4. Restaurants

"To me, it's dangerous," says Gary Foreman, editor of the frugality minded Web site The Dollar Stretcher. "You have so many people around."

Foreman bases his conclusions on what he hears from readers. "Anecdotally, the cases that I'm hearing of credit or debit information being stolen, as often as not, it's in a restaurant," he says.

The danger: Restaurants are one of the few places where you have to let cards leave your sight when you use them. But others think that avoiding such situations is not workable.

The "conventional advice of 'don't let the card out of your sight' -- that's just not practical," says Tiffany.

The other problem with using a debit card at restaurants: Some establishments will approve the card for more than your purchase amount because, presumably, you intend to leave a tip. So the amount of money frozen for the transaction could be quite a bit more than the amount of your tab. And it could be a few days before you get the cash back in your account.

5. You're a New Customer

Online or in the real world, if you're a first-time customer in a store, skip the debit card the first couple of times you buy, says Breyault.

That way, you get a feel for how the business is run, how you're treated and the quality of the merchandise before you hand over a card that links to your checking account.

6. Buy Now, Take Delivery Later

Buying now but taking delivery days or weeks from now? A credit card offers dispute rights that a debit card typically does not.

"It may be an outfit you're familiar with and trust, but something might go wrong," says Breyault, "and you need protection."

But be aware that some cards will limit the protection to a specific time period, says Feddis. So settle any problems as soon as possible.

7. Recurring Payments

We've all heard the urban legend about the gym that won't stop billing an ex-member's credit card. Now imagine the charges aren't going onto your card, but instead coming right out of your bank account.

Another reason not to use the debit card for recurring charges: your own memory and math skills. Forget to deduct that automatic bill payment from your checkbook one month, and you could either face fees or embarrassment (depending on whether you've opted to allow overdrafting or not). So if you don't keep a cash buffer in your account, "to protect yourself from over-limit fees, you may want to think about using a credit card" for recurring payments, says Breyault.

8. Future Travel

Book your travel with a check card, and "they debit it immediately," says Foley. So if you're buying travel that you won't use for six months or making a reservation for a few weeks from now, you'll be out the money immediately.

Another factor that bothers Foley: Hotels aren't immune to hackers and data breaches, and several name-brand establishments have suffered the problem recently. Do you want your debit card information "to sit in a system for four months, waiting for you to arrive?" she asks. "I would not."

9. Gas Stations and Hotels

This one depends on the individual business. Some gas stations and hotels will place holds to cover customers who may leave without settling the entire bill. That means that even though you only bought $10 in gas, you could have a temporary bank hold for $50 to $100, says Tiffany.

Ditto hotels, where there are sometimes holds or deposits in the hundreds to make sure you don't run up a long distance bill, empty the mini bar or trash the room. The practice is almost unnoticeable if you're using credit, but can be problematic if you're using a debit card and have just enough in the account to cover what you need.

At hotels, ask about deposits and holds before you present your card, says Feddis. At the pump, select the pin-number option, she says, which should debit only the amount you've actually spent.

10. Checkouts or ATMs That Look 'Off'

Criminals are getting better with skimmers and planting them in places you'd never suspect -- like ATM machines on bank property, says Foley.

So take a good look at the machine or card reader the next time you use an ATM or self-check lane, she advises. Does the machine fit together well or does something look off, different or like it doesn't quite belong? Says Foley, "Make sure it doesn't look like it's been tampered with."
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#1 Pete Chilcutt, Mar 20, 2010

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#2 Luckyazn, Mar 20, 2010
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Interesting....it appears that I'm not using my Deb card in the best places. I violate most of those on a daily basis.

#3 Codman, Mar 20, 2010
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Gas, Hotels, restaurants, online, checkouts, and Atms. Where can I use my debit card than?

#4 BmwM3, Mar 20, 2010
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BmwM3 said:

Gas, Hotels, restaurants, online, checkouts, and Atms. Where can I use my debit card than?
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I guess just the bank...

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Stupid f'n article. In other words: NEVER USE YOUR DEBT CARD.

#6 SirCharlesFan, Mar 20, 2010
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what bout da skrip club

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Sounds like a credit card company employee wrote this.

#8 moestavern19, Mar 20, 2010
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Dumb article.

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BmwM3 said:

Gas, Hotels, restaurants, online, checkouts, and Atms. Where can I use my debit card than?
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Right? I skimmed through the list and was like, WTF?!? Those are all the places I use it at.

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Poloshirtbandit said:

what bout da skrip club
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"aint nothin' wrawwong wit usin yo card at da skrip club" said pacman Jones

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Mexico.

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Poloshirtbandit said:

what bout <strike>da skrip</strike> club
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I believe you mean tha skrib club.

#13 KingCheetah, Mar 20, 2010

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I never use my debit card anywhere. I use my credit card wherever I can, though.

#14 Dr of Dunk, Mar 20, 2010
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All the reasons the article gives for not using your debit card are legit. If you have a CC, there's no point in using a debit card. like it says, CC's protect you alot more than debit.

if you're using your debit, that's like using cash. why not use a CC for the extra protection it provides, and just pay your CC off every month. you won't accrue any interest and you might even get reward points. it's "better" to get your CC information stolen than your debit card. with CCs, thieves steal money from the CC company. with a debit card, that's your hard earned cash which is a lot harder to get back.

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Ok... if you can't use your debit card in any of those places... what's the point in even having one?

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ItsMyFault said:

Ok... if you can't use your debit card in any of those places... what's the point in even having one?
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it's not a matter of "can't", more that you shouldn't if you have the option to use a CC.

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^You don't. The only reason I can think of is using the cash back trick at a place like Target to avoid incurring atm fees.

Just follow this. You don't even have to buy for "Fraud Protection". Most of it is already required by law.

macalu said:

All the reasons the article gives for not using your debit card are legit. If you have a CC, there's no point in using a debit card. like it says, CC's protect you alot more than debit.

if you're using your debit, that's like using cash. why not use a CC for the extra protection it provides, and just pay your CC off every month. you won't accrue any interest and you might even get reward points. it's "better" to get your CC information stolen than your debit card. with CCs, thieves steal money from the CC company. with a debit card, that's your hard earned cash which is a lot harder to get back.
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Also there's been news of fake card slots appearing in gas stations. Getting your own money randomly stolen sucks a lot more than the Credit card money attached to your name.

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macalu said:

it's not a matter of "can't", more that you shouldn't if you have the option to use a CC.
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That's what I meant to say... but even though I have a CC, I would much rather use the debit card in some of these places... I get rewards through my debit card too... this article is just plain stupid.

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Gotta agree with the article here.

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