I thought this was about something terrible going on in India... a practice that has gone on for many generations, sadly. What it has to do with abortion here in the States is based only on the agenda of those against abortion in the States. The comparison ends there. You folks have "fun" with another emotional abortion debate. I'll pass. D&D. Somethings Here Disgust Some of Us Here.
My contention is that all intentially caused loss of life is tragic -- whether in India, or China, or Germany or the United States. And, Deckard, you know I respect your opinions, but choosing to shun the starkly real comparisons of this is beneath you. Killing is killing.
somebody else quoted a verse from the koran. he explained it. i think you're reading in a lot more than is there.
man, i hope you don't mean me, because that wasn't my intention at all. it is notable that UNICEF included unborn children in its 10 million number, though.
why would you mention this? can you really be that ignorant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India i think you need to do some research on india, the above link may help you IF you choose to read it.
man, this thread is one knee-jerk after another. and this is my 2nd post here that's started with the word, "man."
Max, I base my argument on comparative logic. I know that I am neither a gentleman nor a scholar, but I do not understand condemning (or frowning on) a practice in one country and condoning it in our own. How is that a knee jerk reaction? Are there differences in the levels of humanity from country to country?
I think its pretty obvious that some people in this thread see a difference in kind between post-natal, gender-based infanticide and non-gender based early term abortion. You obviously don't, which is your right - but I don't see why it's so difficult for you to understand why reasonable minds may differ on the issue.
That is splitting hairs, SF. However, in order to formulate a belief in this tricky turf, each of us must determine for himself/herself when a life becomes a life. I have no answer for where that hair (fetus or infant) is split -- I am not that bright. And BTW, I never postulated that reasonable minds may or may not differ on the issue. I stated that I did not see the logic. As I said, to me, killing is killing whether it is "humane" or "inhumane." The result is the same.
Well, many legal, moral, and religious systems differentiate between kinds of killing (justifiable, unjustifiable, self-defense, 1st degree, 2nd degree, cruel & unusual...etc) so you seem to be an outlier in this regard.
I think this is another topic. Abortion in a America is a well known issue here. I believe many on this thread including myself, didn't know about this issue in India. Besides the fact that the intention behind killing infants in America and in Inda are different according to the article.
Why would someone bring up Islam in the context of Indian abortions unless it's to pass judgment on another group?
If you mean "outlier" as "a statistical observation that is markedly different in value from the others of the sample," I would disagree for I do not feel alone in my observations. Also, an example of "justifiable, unjustifiable, self-defense, 1st degree, 2nd degree, cruel & unusual...etc" in the case of a fetus or infant escapes my experience.
the article groups abortions and infanticide together. THis is because infanticide occurs in rural villages, not in urban centers. THis article is an attempt to put down Indian civilization by suggesting that even modernized citzens engage in infanticide which really is misleading.
it's not just abortions. it's infanticide, in general. the guy you quoted wasn't the guy who posted the koran passage to begin with. others asked what the first guy's post was about...and he cleared it up, explaining the background.
