Absolutely not. I'm not buttering up anyone. How many Miami games do you think that Kagy's watched? I just hate this kind of arugment. It's like saying "Nolan Ryan says that John Sharp would make a great Lt. Gov., and since Ryan is a lifelong Republican and Sharp is a Democrat, then he's right." I've missed <B>one</B> UT home game since 1997, and have watched all of them on television since then. I thought they'd lose the last 3 games. What do you make of that? Just because Kagy, a huge OSU fan, says that OSU would lose to Miami doesn't mean squat.
Okay, I see why this is not going anywhere. I'm using Brian because I am comparing him to someone who is not an OSU fan like mfclark. Obviously, I see your point if I was arguing about Texas and comparing you to the Cat. So, it is going to be different, IMO, if you are comparing 2 fans who are fans of different teams to 2 fans who are fans of the same team.
No. I've probably watched as many UT games this year as BrianKagy has watched OSU games. I thought UT would lose the last three games. My point being that just because you've watched your team a lot, you can be very wrong about what you think they're going to do in certain games. Hell, even Major, who is absolutely the best college football poster (especially UT) thought UT would lose to Nebraska. Would you be quoting BrianKagy if he thought that OSU would beat Miami?
I understand your point, but I don't think you are getting what I am saying. I would want to know what an OSU fan feels about it, not someone who is not an OSU fan. Convienently for me, Brian feels that Miami is better than OSU, but even if he didn't I still take more stock in his opinion than someone who is not an OSU fan. That is all I am saying...I don't know how I can make it any clearer.
OK, so if 4chuckie and BrianKagy both felt that OSU would kill Miami, you'd be using their opinions opposed to saying they're biased like mfclark?
Bingo because at least they have seen OSU play (probably on a consistent basis). [size=1/2]I know you were using a metaphor in "kill Miami" but no one is going to "kill" Miami....they might beat them, but it will be close.[/size]
If UT starts Steve Young at QB for the rest of the season, they win every game by at least 40 points.
something tells me steve young doesn't have any eligibility left. also, mfclark, are you saying you think miami could be behind osu even with winning out? and you keep saying if they don't win impressively (or make a statement), that could be the case and they would be third. i don't understand, aside from the human polls, what will not winning convincingly have to do with anything? i don't think a statement game will get them back in first in the coaches poll so what can miami really do the rest of the season except win out. and manny, tell your boys to wake up quick. the only reason i have put off hating them this season was b/c i thought they could keep OU from winning the NC. if they fail to do that, they will never be forgiven in my eyes and i will have jazz-like hatred toward them forever. so miami, get in gear dammit.
Yeah, but how cool would that be if he did. I think the NCAA should experiment with this, if college football TV ratings ever plummeted.
I'll chime in... Just my $.02 but I don't think any one of top 3 teams would walk over any of the other 2. OK is the best team in the Nation right now, Miami is still the Champs until someone beats them, and my Buckeyes have a great defense. The one key for OSU is getting Clarett healthy. Without him our offense is very average. So I am saying Ohio State could match up with either OK or Miami, but no way could I guarantee a win (or a loss) at this point. I think Miami has not shown they can stop the run, which would help the Buckeyes. Also OSU plays very well vs. the run (except the Wisconsin game where the entire D took off the 1st half) which may negate Maghee. But Miami has so many great athletes. As for Oklahoma I love their coach (Stoopes). OSU wanted to talk to him about our job but all he would do is recomment his brother for the job. OK has been the best team this year so far. Even after a change in QB they haven't missed a beat. Athletically I think OSU matches up with OK. If OSU has shown any weakness on D it has been vs. the spread (we played well vs. TT and WSU witht he spread but not so good vs. Cincy). Either way OK and Miami are great programs I would be psyched to be in Tempe to watch my Buckeyes play either one. If OSU falters so be it, it has been a great ride so far lot of highs (WSU, Wisconsin, PSU) and a few scares (Cincy most notably). I just hope we take care of business and get a chance to play in the Fiesta Bowl.
I'm not playing biased against Miami. I just take issue with McGahee's comments, that's all. Until Miami shows on the field that they are worthy of a spot in the BCS title game, then all they have is talk - and that's not worth much. Like you (and I) have said, these polls mean nothing. So, why is he making a huge deal out of it? Let your play on the field do the talking - which, right now, has said that they aren't the best team in the nation.
No; if Miami wins out, they likely deserve to be #2 (heck, even #1 if OU loses) in the BCS poll. However, their performance as of late suggests that they will not have an easy time winning out and performing well against a tough schedule of Pitt, VT, and Tennessee. Not winning convincingly impacts the human polls, for sure, though it doesn't impact the computer polls so much. Playing a 1-win team like Rutgers, however, will in terms of strength of schedule, both in the computer polls and the actual SOS component of the BCS. A major statement game may not get Miami back into first in the AP poll (though they are only out of it by, oh, 8 points out of 1800), but it'd go a long way towards silencing the doubters. And maybe, just maybe, McGahee would have a footing on which to stand when he is lashing out at all of those against Miami.
mfclark, You are wrong. If Miami wins out, they won't be #3 in the BCS, at least not likely. Read this right here: The shakedown of last Saturday leaves us with a fairly clear-cut picture atop the BCS Standings. Oklahoma is in total control and will easily finish at No. 1 if it wins out. And despite what this week's BCS numbers might say about the closeness of the race between Miami and Ohio State, the strength of remaining opponents make it the Hurricanes' spot to lose. Miami vs. Ohio State Miami will start to separate from the Buckeyes because of games against Tennessee, Pittsburgh and Virginia Tech. OSU, meanwhile, has only one game remaining against a team with a winning record (Michigan). Even if Miami falls to No. 2 in the coaches poll, Ohio State would still not be able to make up that one-point deficit unless Miami's non-conference opponents lose a lot more down the stretch. That would open the door for the Buckeyes to be higher-ranked in the computers and possibly be able to jump the 'Canes if a huge bonus is tacked on from having beaten Washington State. This is from BCS guru, Brad Edwards. Now, I hope you understand why I would rather believe him than you.
Oh and you keep going on and on and on and on about Miami not having an easy time playing Tennessee, Pitt, and Virginia Tech because of their recent performances. I find it funny that you think that Miami cannot play better than what they are showing. They have a little thing called talent, and I doubt very seriously that the rest of their games are going to be struggles. That is akin to saying because they struggled to beat BC and Va Tech last year that they would struggle or lose to Nebraska in the Rose Bowl. You can't predict how a bunch of college kids are going to play from week to week, especially not this season.
No, there is something else that needs to be said. In an earlier thread on this subject, I stated that Texas was worthy of being number 5, and that Virginia Tech and Notre Dame would lose. You responded with name calling, proclaiming that I was a moron. This makes you a BIG DORK.
mfclark, You are wrong. If Miami wins out, they won't be #2 in the BCS, at least not likely. Read this right here: What you posted says that Miami will be #2 and OSU will have a hard time catching them.
Just my opinion also. I am a huge Buckeye fan, Live in Ohio and have been a die hard fan for years. I go to some games and watch every other one on TV. I also think OSU would get beaten pretty soundly by Miami. I just think they have too much talent for OSU (or anyone else except possibly OU). I guess I subscribe to the "gotta beat the man to be the man" school of thinking and no one has beat Miami for 2 years. They played some close games yes, but still mannged to win them all. Every good team faces close games throughout the year but not many overcome them all. I mean even OSU almost lost to Cincy. PS-Michigan's gonna get punked by OSU just like last year
