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05-06 Season, why were the Clippers better than the Rockets?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by tinman, Aug 5, 2010.

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Why were the Clippers better that year?

  1. Their highest paid player > Rockets highest paid player

    2 vote(s)
    2.3%

  2. point guard play

    16 vote(s)
    18.2%

  3. coaching

    5 vote(s)
    5.7%

  4. Sam Cassell

    40 vote(s)
    45.5%

  5. Yao + Tmac = fake batman and robin, more like Ren and Stimpy

    25 vote(s)
    28.4%
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  1. tinman

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    Southwest Division
    San Antonio Spurs* (1) 63 19
    Dallas Mavericks* (4) 60 22
    New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets (10) 38 44
    Houston Rockets (12) 34 48


    34-48, Finished 5th in NBA Southwest Division (Schedule and Results)
    Coached by: Jeff Van Gundy (34-48)

    Points Per Game: 90.1 (29th of 30) ▪ Opponent Points Per Game: 91.7 (4th of 30)
    Pythagorean W-L: 36-46 (20th of 30)

    Arena: Toyota Center ▪ Attendance: 636,110 (28th of 30)

    SRS: -1.31 (19th of 30) ▪ Pace Factor: 88.0 (25th of 30)
    Offensive Rating: 101.6 (29th of 30) ▪ Defensive Rating: 103.3 (6th of 30)

    Rk Player Salary
    1 Tracy McGrady $15,694,250
    2 Clarence Weatherspoon $6,353,200
    3 Juwan Howard $5,900,400
    4 Yao Ming $5,594,906
    5 David Wesley $5,070,000
    6 Stromile Swift $5,000,000
    7 Moochie Norris $4,200,000
    8 Rafer Alston $3,850,000
    9 Vin Baker $3,850,000
    10 Bob Sura $3,520,000
    11 Dikembe Mutombo $2,000,000
    12 Charlie Ward $1,870,000
    13 Jon Barry $1,800,000
    14 Derek Anderson $1,670,000
    15 Luther Head $975,600
    16 Ryan Bowen $900,498
    17 Lonny Baxter $745,248
    18 Dion Glover $163,085
    19 Stephen Graham $48,630
    20 John Lucas $34,041
    21 Josh Davis $17,546



    Pacific Division
    Phoenix Suns* (2) 54 28
    Los Angeles Clippers* (6) 47 35
    Los Angeles Lakers* (7) 45 37
    Sacramento Kings* (8) 44 38
    Golden State Warriors (12) 34 48

    47-35, Finished 2nd in NBA Pacific Division (Schedule and Results)
    Coached by: Mike Dunleavy (47-35)

    Points Per Game: 97.2 (17th of 30) ▪ Opponent Points Per Game: 95.6 (11th of 30)
    Pythagorean W-L: 46-36 (11th of 30)

    Arena: Staples Center ▪ Attendance: 712,409 (13th of 30)

    SRS: 1.75 (9th of 30) ▪ Pace Factor: 91.7 (10th of 30)
    Offensive Rating: 105.3 (18th of 30) ▪ Defensive Rating: 103.6 (8th of 30)

    Playoffs:
    Lost NBA Western Conference Semifinals (4-3) versus Phoenix Suns
    Won NBA Western Conference First Round (4-1) versus Denver Nuggets

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    Won NBA Western Conference First Round (4-1) versus Denver Nuggets
    Quantcast

    Salaries
    Glossary ▪ CSV ▪ PRE
    Rk Player Salary
    1 Elton Brand $13,152,000
    2 Cuttino Mobley $7,200,000
    3 Corey Maggette $7,000,000
    4 Sam Cassell $6,875,000
    5 Shaun Livingston $3,254,880
    6 Zeljko Rebraca $3,000,000
    7 Chris Wilcox $2,812,239
    8 Chris Kaman $2,753,760
    9 Yaroslav Korolev $1,704,480
    10 Walter McCarty $1,035,000
    11 Quinton Ross $700,000
    12 James Singleton $625,000
    13 Daniel Ewing $450,000
    14 Boniface N'Dong $398,762
    15 Howard Eisley $291,567
    16 Anthony Goldwire $74,652
    17 Kaniel Dickens $31,30
     
    #1 tinman, Aug 5, 2010
  2. The_Yoyo

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    Boniface N'Dong of course was the difference maker
     
    #2 The_Yoyo, Aug 5, 2010
  3. tinman

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    #3 tinman, Aug 5, 2010
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    Pretty decent starting lineup (obviously better than ours), plus Sam I Am is an insane clutch factor and leader. This was before Brand had turned into complete crap too.

    You also can't understate the ability to draw fouls and attack the basket. Maggette and Sammy were great at that. Mobley had been earning a reputation as lockdown defender on that team and Ross was proclaimed as a defensive stopper as well. I think they had a thinner bench than ours, just slightly, but their go-to guys "mesh" better as a unit.
     
    #4 tofu--, Aug 5, 2010
  5. Northside Storm

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    You happened to choose a year where T-mac and Yao played only 31 games together, which even for their fragile-ass bones, is really really low.

    Plus the fact that the third best player was probably...hell, Bob Sura? Juwan? Maybe dark-horse all-star Rafer?

    I'm surprised the Rockets even won that many games.

    so dunno why you threw in that crapper team. you could have just said "hey look, sam i am and mobley advanced to the second round!!!" which wouldn't be news except I guess it is the Clippers.
     
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  6. tinman

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    Yoyo,

    how did this happen?

    Offensive Rating: 101.6 (29th of 30)

    when we have:

    Tracy McGrady age 26, a former scoring champion

    how did this happen too?

    Arena: Toyota Center ▪ Attendance: 636,110 (28th of 30)

    I thought Tracy McGrady had tons of fans and Yao has billions of fans, why was our ranking 28th in attendance?
     
    #6 tinman, Aug 5, 2010
  7. Northside Storm

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    Because for half the season either Yao and/or Mac were out, and no one wants to watch a starting lineup of Stromile Swift/Juwan Howard/Ryan Bowen/Jon Barry/ Rafer. NO ONE
     
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    Yao Ming 25 years old
    Tracy McGrady 26 years old

    Sam Cassell 36 years old
    Cuttino Mobley 30 years old
    Boniface N'Dong 28 years old
     
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    2005-06 New York Knickerbockers Roster and Statistics

    23-59, Finished 5th in NBA Atlantic Division (Schedule and Results)
    Coached by: Larry Brown (23-59)

    Points Per Game: 95.6 (20th of 30) ▪ Opponent Points Per Game: 102.0 (27th of 30)
    Pythagorean W-L: 24-58 (29th of 30)

    Arena: Madison Square Garden (IV) ▪ Attendance: 744,920 (10th of 30)
     
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    You're seriously asking this about a season where our two best players and damn near our entire starting lineup (Swift, Anderson, Sura) was out for much of the year? WTF?
     
    #10 AstroRocket, Aug 5, 2010
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    It's because no one in Houston watches the Rockets anymore. And Yao fans are all in China.

    Clutchfans is not representative of most of the Rockets fans, I don't think. We're fairly ardent in our support.
     
    #11 tofu--, Aug 5, 2010
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    uh

    being young doesn't prevent toe infections

    and T-mac was a gimpy motherf***** who just had a REALLY gimpy year.

    still

     
    #12 Northside Storm, Aug 5, 2010
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    If this thread has any point at all, it is that both Yao and Tmac are injury prone and that a majority of Rocket fans are bandwagon fans.
     
    #13 t-mac4bigmac, Aug 5, 2010
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    uh, that's new york, aka the most (by far) populated place in america.

    you could swing s*** on a stick and still attract a hundred people.

    That 2005-2006 Knicks roster, btw, at least had a few exciting players. Nate, young Ariza, THE FRANCHISE, street ballin Crawford and hey, David Lee.

    Whereas the 2005-2006 Rockets had Ryan Bowen playing JVG ball, who in their right mind would pay to see that?
     
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  15. tinman

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    But the Clippers are the worst franchise in all sports, how did this happen? how did they win a playoff series? how did the Rockets with over $21 million paid to extremely popular all stars be so bad? ;)
     
    #15 tinman, Aug 5, 2010
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    Sam Cassell played great that season.
     
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    Yao Ming played in 57 games and Tracy McGrady played in 47 games.

    that's 69% and 57% of the regular season.

    That couldn't topple a team's attendance to the near bottom. They played a decent amount of games to warrant some attendance.

    you are basically saying that once Yao AND tmac were both not playing, the Rockets turned into the Astros.
     
    #17 tinman, Aug 5, 2010
  18. Steve_Francis_rules

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    What's the point of this thread? The Rockets were a two man team and those two guys barely played together. The Clippers just happened to have their best season ever the same year.
     
    #18 Steve_Francis_rules, Aug 5, 2010
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    None of the above.

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. GRENDEL

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    Think this selection on the poll makes it pretty obvious....

    Yao + Tmac = fake batman and robin, more like Ren and Stimpy
     
    #20 GRENDEL, Aug 5, 2010
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