Stone needs to give Jalen Green the FULL GLAZE if we expect to get anything back via trade for him. I personally feel like Jalen Green could be the next Clyde Drexler. So bring those trade offers for this rising star!
Stone isnt stupid. Never listen to what people say. Watch what they do. This especially applies to people with lawyer backgrounds and GMs of pro sports teams.
I think I saw all I needed to know watching him on the bench in that game 4 smiling and laughing and happily cheering on his team as they battled to try and get a win. Like Sengun took a horrible shot at the end of the game but I said after that game, I respect the confidence. Bro wanted to win the game and wanted to be the hero, it was a bad shot since it was so far away from the rim but the mentality was there. You saw the mentality from Amen in game 7 as he realized his team needed something, he just decided to try and will his team back into the game. It's a mentality thing definitely. Not a skill or talent thing...and I know people will say "Yes but he can't do this or that so it IS a skill thing," nah, he came into the league with the skills and physical ability to dominate but I don't think the mentality is there. You not going to see Antman settle for multiple ten point games this upcoming series. It's not going to happen and if it does it's going to be on 20 shots. Jalen has to want it and need it. If the coach is telling him to not shoot he then has to tell and then show the coach he's wrong. Right now, I feel like Cam at least has that mentality. He looks depressed on the bench because he feels like he SHOULD play, he's confident that if you give him the opportunity he'd be that guy.
The Rockets will not trade him to just trade him. However, they will and are looking for an upgrade - and that will likely involve Jalen Green being traded. Green is a complicated figure. He isn't a bust or lost cause like some claim, but I do believe that he has been miscast as the guy that the offense should run through. He wasn't that guy as an amateur either really. He is a shooting guard, and a more traditional one at that. He needs to be playing off someone that has a lot of gravity. As for his game - first, it was a lot rawer than anyone, including the Rockets, realized. He has spent the last 3-4 years learning where to be defensively, when to be aggressive and getting stronger to defend and to get his shot off in the lane in the NBA. He is still almost 100% dependent on his long range shooting, as it opens up the rest of his game. He still has no mid range game, and I think that more than anything has hindered him. His outside shooting isn't good but it has been okay enough if he had other ways to score. He doesn't draw contact going to the basket, and he also doesn't finish well through contact. For as athletic as Green is, right now he is in many ways a traditional outside shooting guard. So the idea that Green will be dealt at all costs is silly - but the reality is that there is a good chance he is gone.
Stone is also someone that believes strongly in being positive - you are seldom going to hear him say anything negative or even neutral about or to his players in public. What he and Udoka say in private to each other is often times different - you can look at the John Wall situation if you want an example. Also - Jalen Green is someone that is in general well liked by those that work with him and coach him, they are not going to try and diminish him or bad mouth him. I would be fine with Jalen Green as a SG if the Rockets had someone like Luka or LBJ running the offense.
I will say that this is right, I don't think Green is totally useless, just not the #1 option. Also it should be noted that Green has always had issues against GSWs defense, he's always struggled against them. It sucks for him that we didn't get to minny because he's played much better against them this season and the narrative might have been different if he had a bounce back series against them. I agree though, I hate the deal Green at all costs mentality or the mentality around here that we should have a firesale as if this team is the Suns. If there is a good deal out there for Green do it, otherwise, I feel it makes the most sense to just keep him around.
Yep. I don't expect any of these guys to come out and actually say something negative about someone in the org. This group seems like they all like and support each other. Even when Ime talks about Cam who clearly has some issues, he doesn't talk negatively about him.
Yep. Where did I see the pictures of Jalen and his baby and baby mama (no actual disrespect) out for a lovely little picnic..........hours before the big Game 7? He's a kid. Loves his family? Great. But his team needed him BIG TIME and he was checked out.
Right. The FO's goal, if there was a trade this summer, is to upgrade at Jalen's spot with a significantly higher level perimeter creator who is in his 20s. I think some people are losing sight of the fact that Jalen being in that trade is part of what makes it an "upgrade". And the other team (or a third team) has to make some sense for Jalen for that to happen. He's not going to get dumped as a negative contract. If there's not that fit both ways, there's not going to be a big trade IMO, outside of some super unlikely Luka-style scenario. I don't think the FO is interested in upgrading any other major spot. Also IMO, we're not gonna trade Jalen for a marginal upgrade based on emotion of the moment. He's not going to get traded for a Coby White or an RJ Barrett or Malik Monk etc. An upgrade means a player who can do the job of being a perimeter offensive engine for a playoff team. Otherwise we're in the same situation we're in with Jalen, except with someone our FO didn't draft and doesn't have a strong personal relationship with.
I watched this press conference and Stone was stuttering like crazy when talking about Jalen. He said what he had to say but he didn’t sound as confident as that statement sounds just by reading it.
I agree one “One playoff series doesn’t define a player.” The problem is the playoff series was actually confirmation what many of us already knew.
“One playoff series doesn’t define a player that I used a 2nd pick on and gave all the minutes and chances for 4 years."
Are you really that confident? Opportunity is fleeting in this league. The team was good this year. However, there is a glaring hole the size of an offensive creator. Yet, Stone did nothing at the deadline. In contrast, GSW nabbed Butler who is partially responsible for burying us. He doubled down on Jalen by giving him a fat contract less than a year ago. I'm afraid Stone is too afraid of giving up on Jalen too early and getting egg on his face. Things are not going to get easier. OKC is gaining experience. Wemby is coming. This year should not have been taken for granted.
Jackson apparently asked the hard hitting questions about Jalen in today's conference. Can anyone post those? @J.R. Probably I.d.i.o.t
Agreed - the Rockets are not trading Jalen Green for a lateral move. The Rockets front office likes Jalen, they just have concerns about whether he can be the #1 option. If he is dealt, it is going to be for a clear upgrade. I think that there are a few players that the Rockets will look at that could play next to Jalen - Kevin Durant is possible, so is Ball with Charlotte. They both could play next to Jalen, but I suspect that Jalen would be moved in either of those deals. Durant isn't my first choice because of his age - but he is a real possibility, and he likes Houston as a city. While Ball would be the de facto point guard if he joined the Rockets, he would need to be surrounded by good shooters and Jalen isn't good enough. Teams are keeping an eye on the Pelicans as a team that may decide to rebuild and there would be a couple of players that the Rockets would likely be interested in. Atlanta and Young have been mentioned - with several teams interested.
