‘47 Percent Negro’: Anti-Obama Protest Turns Racist In Phoenix

Who do you think he's referring to if not conservatives like myself?

Liberals have a caricature of Republicans/conservatives/TPers stuck in their heads, and it says that they are racist, homophobic, woman-hating neanderthals, and stories like this are simply offered up as "proof".

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Look, it's up to you if you want to find some way in order to make yourself feel like you're being insulted. You weren't unless you were one of the people at the rally holding the signs and screaming the chants. Like I said, if you're going to go so far out of your way to find insult, there's nothing anyone can do.

Nobody has ever said all Republicans are racist. Nobody has ever said all conservatives are racist. There are people on this board who've posted racist things and in most political situations they are on the conservative side. That isn't calling all conservatives racist, nor is it calling you one.

There are studies showing that more tea party members are racist than other political groups. That doesn't mean they all are.

We could even extend the conversation to ask why Republicans don't come out and take a stronger stand against the racist members of their party, and how a Republican president put one in the civil rights division of the Department of Justice . Even then, that isn't calling you a racist, all conservatives racist or all Republicans racist.

 

Wasn't there a liberal who showed up at the Trevor Martin rally, in Houston, a couple of weeks back with a racist sign trying to make Zimmerman supporters look bad? The truth is, anyone can show up at a rally and pretend to be on one side or the other in order to discredit their targets. I take this stuff with a grain of salt.

But, make no mistake, the GOP definitely tried to push xenophobic buttons during the last two Presidential campaigns.

 

The truth is: no matter how ignorant and racist these people are, that doesn't make Obama any better. But there's no fun in that, huh.

 

The only thing that can be done is to wait for all the bigots to grow old and die off.

 

I agree. Wishful thinking I guess.

 

Thanks guys for confirming everything I said. Alot of you guys are just red lines to me but from what I've read the consensus is that even if not all of Republicans are racist, the party as a whole is generally racist, and it's a big problem. The caricature is alive and well. FB even quotes some mysterious study stating that TPers are most definitely more racist than everyone else (I'd be VERY interested to see the methodology of that one ).

Nothing new here.

 

Go to a tea party rally.

 

I have been to Tea Party rallies. They are usually VERY proactive in ejecting any fool who shows up with stupid racist crap. There are also generally black and hispanic people there, as well.

I suppose your point is that because most TPers tend to be white, that they must be more racist? Isn't that a pretty racist line of thought in itself?

 

It wasn't that mysterious. It received a fair amount of attention when the study came out.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04/25/are-tea-partiers-racist.html

Though like I said even this study doesn't indicate that every tea party member is a racist.

The bottom line is this. The OP posted an article about protestors from Arizona who chanted racist things and held up racist posters and signs. From that you somehow concluded that you personally were being called a racist. It makes no sense.

 

Oh, and thanks again guys for making my point for me.

 

So is your position that pointing out and decrying open racism at any conservative political rally is the same thing as calling you a racist?

It makes zero sense. I'm sorry that you feel the need to try and make yourself feel insulted by others. I don't understand it.

 

LOL, I KNEW you were going to post that one. Eh, I've already been called a racist several times; I am a conservative, after all, so I must be, remember? Anyways, I couldn't care less if you or anyone else here thinks that I personally am a racist. You don't know me and it's simply idiotic on your part to accuse me of such without any evidence. I am simply pointing out that the Narrative states that conservatives/Republicans/TPers are a racist bunch. Which you and pretty much every other liberal has confirmed that they believe.

Anyways, enjoy some counterarguments.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/04/25/tea_partiers_racist_not_so_fast_105309.html

http://www.volokh.com/2010/07/20/assessing-the-survey-data-on-tea-party-racism/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/04/AR2010050405168.html

Relevant final quote from the WaPo article:

"I went to a wine festival yesterday," he said. "Weren't too many black people there, either. Nobody called them racists... As long as people who oppose us can frame the debate that way, then they can get people to stop listening to us," Coleman said. "The charge of racism is one that can be thrown out there, and it really doesn't have to be proven. But it has such a negative connotations that it can pretty much halt the debate."

Which is really what it's all about. Halting the debate. That is what the race card is ALWAYS about.

 

Er, no, where would you get that from ANYTHING I've written here or anywhere else? I pointed out that Tea Party organizers generally rightly eject anyone who shows up with that crap as swiftly as possible.

Just out of curiosity, why do you guys try and make EVERY SINGLE FREAKING THREAD about me personally? I suspect that I just REALLY get under your skin.

Simple fact of the matter is that when you have to resort to calling your non-racist opposition racists, then A) you have lost the debate, and B) there's no use debating further. Again, it is about halting debate and shutting the other side up. Always has been.

 

Your post has a strange detachment from reality. I have never called you a racist. I've gone out of my way to point out that you weren't called a racist by the OP either. You are the only person here who's talking about you being a racist. Most other people here have been talking about you NOT being a racist based on anything from the initial incident. Seriously, I hope you have help dealing with whatever it is that makes you feel insulted by someone pointing out a group of people thousands of miles away from you that were holding racist signs and shouting racist slogans. Good luck, treeman.

I also have not said that all conservatives or Republicans were racists. In fact I made clear in multiple posts in this thread that I believe most tea party members, conservatives, and Republicans are not racists.

As for the counter evidence. I just want to point out that the study didn't gain its results by noting there were mostly white people at tea party meetings. So your post about the wine event doesn't really address anything in the study.

 

Keep defending racists in your strange quest to turn yourself into a victim. It's working brilliantly so far.

 

From the you claiming someone posting an article about people in AZ was them calling you a racist.

You made a thread about protestors in AZ about you when you claimed that the OP was personally insulting you and calling you a racist. You changed the topic to make it about you.

Simple fact - I didn't call you a racist, and went out of my way to state that I don't believe all conservatives, Republicans, or Tea Party members are racists. This thread was about people who did say racist slogans so the debate here should be about people saying racist things.