Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!
Is he not inefficient? Yes, he's very inconsistent -- but in the aggregate he is also inefficient. I mean, I don't want to be the "facts don't...
But he's awful at dribble penetration and creating offense off the dribble. Again, I know people want him to be this great scoring wing. That's...
Eh, I think you're limiting the possibilities of Sengun because of having a too ingrained and not plastic enough idea of basketball offense. To...
I don't think Jalen is an elite ball handling wing. He is much more efficient when he plays without the ball in his hands. In fact, I got an...
Why does that necessitate Green taking bad shots so much? He could let Sengun create offense and play offball more, but he decided to take the bad...
So, basically you think a stretch 5 is a necessity for Green to thrive?
Green drives into a crowd when Sengun is off the floor too though man. He just does that. He has low basketball IQ and takes bad shots every...
Well, I'm very open to other arguments or stats that you would like to point to, if you have any.
wait, you think Green is BETTER than Beal and LaVine trajectory? Ooh, hard disagree there. Can you give me your argument for that, because I am...
Josh Giddey is second this year, and his TS% is 53%, which is the same as Green this year. Giddey was actually first last year in vorp when his TS...
I don't think this is true. We can most certainly compare win shares and vorp between, say, Jokic and Doncic and Embiid, etc. Context matters too....
It isn't as if the context on this team has been to Sengun's benefit though. He started the year on the bench, and the team played away from his...
ha, ok then. Conversation over I suppose. Guess we'll just wait and see whose eye test was right then, since there's nothing left to be said if...
It isn't be all and end all, but it is a good stat. So, your eye test is telling you one thing, my eye test is telling me another thing. That's...
No, I'm sorry, but you're incorrect. Compare Jalen's vorp in the 20 year old season of all of Beal, Booker and Lavine. They are all positive vorp...
I mean, even with Jalen being given the keys to the team, he's super inefficient. He scored more points than Sengun, but advanced stats like VORP...
I disagree with that argument. I think people were just wrong about Green's ceiling, and that it is lower than people thought -- and that most...
for those curious btw, just looked it up and Green is 18th among 20 year olds. Which, if we do decide to trade one of the two in order to put a...
Interesting stat I just noticed: Sengun has the highest vorp of any 20 yo in the NBA. And the second highest of any 19 year old last season...
[IMG]