Majority of Americans Concerned about Cuts Willing to Raise Taxes on Rich

They were in favor of raising the tax rates on the rich before back when they made the compromise to keep the tax cuts. The only people who aren't willing to do it is Republican lawmakers and a bunch of the wall street billionaires.

 

So what? The "representatives" of this "majority of Americans" are not willing to raise taxes on the rich and so we continue to bankrupt ourselves for a privileged few.

The American public has virtually no impact on policy.

 

I don't think you understood my post.

 

And who did they poll, union member homes?

Democrat likely voters?

Come on, show WHO you polled and how the question was asked before I believe any poll.

The top 5% wage earners in this country pay 51% of the total taxes the feds pull in. Considering that almost 40% of the American public don't pay taxes, its understandable they would hate the "big bad rich man". That 40% takes what the other 60% pays in taxes. How is it right or fair that I have to work to pay my bills but other people can just sit around on the government teat without working and suck down all the tax revenue. When does education get some, SS, defense, infrastructure costs, etc. oh that's right lets raise taxes. Of course there are folks that needs some help but that used to be the job of churches and community centers. I am not against welfare but there has to be a cut off for those that actually CAN work.

Raising taxes is not the answer. Washington takes took much from us hard-working taxpayers. Its never worked anywhere in the history of man. it cannot be sustained.

Not one government has ever taxed itself into prosperity...period

Its OUR money , not the government's. I have no issue paying some taxes for the defense of this nation and its people and the running of the government. But to waste from BOTH sides of the aisle is disgusting. Just like a household that is facing tough economic times. Tough decisions have to be made. Some things just can't be budgeted for when there is no money.

 

Welcome to the discussion Mr. Boortz.

 

If you really want to find that information, much of it is available if you choose to look. However, you will have to do your own research.

It is a lie to say that "almost 40% of the American public don't pay taxes." Everyone who works pays payroll tax and the poor and middle class pay a higher percentage of their income in payroll tax than the rich do.

The number of people who are able to "sit around on the government teat without working" is minuscule.

Given that a significant reason for our deficit is the tax cuts that have been given over the course of the last 30+ years, raising taxes seems like it should be on the table.

There are measures in place to make sure that those who can work do. That was a significant part of the welfare reform that Clinton signed into law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Responsibility_and_Work_Opportunity_Act

I would argue that the longest, sustained period of economic growth in our country was the period between 1945 and 1975, a time period when the top marginal tax rate never fell below 70%.

Our government used to collect enough in taxes to pay its bills. That was the case up until Reagan lowered the tax rates dramatically. Look at the deficit and debt history sometime, it started ballooning under Reagan and only reversed when Bush the elder and Clinton raised taxes.

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society. If you prefer to keep your entire paycheck without the government taking any, I hear Somalia is nice this time of year.

 

You really think that information is being concealed from you, and that a fraud may be being perpetrated upon you? Interesting.

Are you using AOL to type this post? 56.6k?

 

I'm not as optimistic in your ability to use the Google as other posters. Therefore, I will graciously help you out:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/S..._Politics_Today_Stories_Teases/2-24-28-11.pdf

There's 20 pages of data. After digesting the information, please come back and tell us you believe the poll or not. And if not, why not?

 

You do realize that there a taxable threashhold that a taxpayer has to meet or he gets ALL of his witheld taxes. So if you make les than a certain, amount, you are not paying nothing already. Welfare precipitants get all of theirs back too.

Hmmm, sound like there may be more than a miniscule amount NOT paying taxes

Where is your information that proves this? Is this just a pundit's opinion you heard that sounded cool?

Tax cuts are NOTthe reason for a deficit. Its the spending. If do NOT spend more than you make, there is no deficit. However, if you want to spend you don't have, the debt comes sooner rather than later.

Are you referring to the federal government who chooses which laws to enforce?

And if I remember correctly, didn't we have a huge energy and economic recession and inflation going through the roof in the mid 70's (circa 1975)? That condition was present years before Reagan lowered tax rates. Seems to me that all those years of high taxes finally blew up the system. The lowering of taxes in the 80's is what catapulted us to the being the ONLY superpower in the world whose money is the standard by which the world economy model moves?

The budget ballooned because of spending , NOT because of lower taxes.

Lower taxes = higher revenue for the government. Always has, always will.

Lower taxes means more money to spend and more jobs that need working. Oh and that multiplies the number of people on the tax role. Hmmmm, more people paying taxes means more tax revenue.

Its a fairly simple equation. Works EVERYTIME.

The money I earn is mine. Not yours or the government's. Somalia is not the best example to use. It is under Islamic rule where ALL the money you make is the government's

 

YEAH! That non-existant Somali government is just stealing the common-man's money. I agree that's a horrible example.

 

Oh boy, I'm going to enjoy watching that steaming pile of crapola get ripped to shreds.

 

The Case Against the Income Tax

Texas Straight Talk ^ | May 7, 2001 | Congressman Ron Paul

Posted on Sat May 26 2007 1

Could America exist without an income tax? The idea seems radical, yet in truth America did just fine without a federal income tax for the first 126 years of its history. Prior to 1913, the government operated with revenues raised through tariffs, excise taxes, and property taxes, without ever touching a worker's paycheck. In the late 1800s, when Congress first attempted to impose an income tax, the notion of taxing a citizen's hard work was considered radical! Public outcry ensued; more importantly, the Supreme Court ruled the income tax unconstitutional. Only with passage of the 16th Amendment did Congress gain the ability to tax the productive endeavors of its citizens.

Yet don't we need an income tax to fund the important functions of the federal government? You may be surprised to know that the income tax accounts for only approximately one-third of federal revenue. Only 10 years ago, the federal budget was roughly one-third less than it is today. Surely we could find ways to cut spending back to 1990 levels, especially when the Treasury has single year tax surpluses for the past several years. So perhaps the idea of an America without an income tax is not so radical after all.

The harmful effects of the income tax are obvious. First and foremost, it has enabled government to expand far beyond its proper constitutional limits, regulating virtually every aspect of our lives. It has given government a claim on our lives and work, destroying our privacy in the process. It takes billions of dollars out of the legitimate private economy, with most Americans giving more than a third of everything they make to the federal government. This economic drain destroys jobs and penalizes productive behavior. The ridiculous complexity of the tax laws makes compliance a nightmare for both individuals and businesses. All things considered, our Founders would be dismayed by the income tax mess and the tragic loss of liberty which results.

America without an income tax would be far more prosperous and far more free, but we must be prepared to fight to regain the liberty we have lost incrementally over the past century. I recently introduced "The Liberty Amendment," legislation which would repeal the 16th Amendment and effectively abolish the income tax. I truly believe that real tax reform, reform that so many frustrated Americans desperately want, requires bold legislation that challenges the Washington mind set. Congress talks about reform, but the current tax debate really involves nothing of substance. Both parties are content to continue tinkering with the edges of the tax code to please various special interests. The Liberty Amendment is an attempt to eliminate the system altogether, forcing Congress to find a simple and fair way to collect limited federal revenues. Most of all, the Liberty Amendment is an initiative aimed at reducing the size and scope of the federal government.

Is it impossible to end the income tax? I don't believe so. In fact, I believe a serious groundswell movement of disaffected taxpayers is growing in this country. Millions of Americans are fed up with the current tax system, and they will bring pressure on Congress. Some sidestep Congress completely, bringing legal challenges questioning the validity of the tax code and the 16th Amendment itself. Ultimately, the Liberty Amendment could serve as a flashpoint for these millions of voices.

 

First of all Somalia does not have an Islamic theocracy as government, and you need to research some more before just talking about stuff.

This is from our own state department website.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2863.htm

Your tax information is wrong on many levels. I'll start with the idea that lowering taxes doesn't increase the deficit.

This talks about the increase in debt and deficit under Reagan due to lowering taxes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics

This talks about tax cuts increasing the deficit.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/09/yes_tax_cuts_increase_the_defi.html

Here's something talking about tax cuts reducing the amount of revenues as percentage of GDP
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/15/gop-plan-raise-debt-4-trillion/

Furthermore everyone pays taxes. There are sales taxes, social security, etc. that are paid by everyone. That is true of anyone who has or spends money.

 

Rob Lewis / socialistworker.org approved.

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SamFisher -- did you consider the CELL PHONE ONLY VOTERS?

OMG that's still hilarious to this day. Surely it will be enough to propel Kerry to victory. LMAO

 

X -1 > X.

Always has, always will.

Good god son, somebody queue the "no points - god have mercy on your soul" speech.

Hang up your modem and get out of my intertubes before your stupid breaks it.

 

If this is a "majority" then whoever voted Republicans in for 2010 clearly got the wrong memo.

 

No kidding. That was painful to read. It would be funny, but I assume our clueless friend Dennis can vote, so it's painful.