Unlike the Astros, don't settle for staying competitive

rhester · Jun 30, 2009

MadMax said:

The baseball analogies here are awful.

One player completely changes the tone of a franchise in basketball...not so in baseball. Great players play entire careers without winning championships in baseball....in basketball, you're judged almost entirely on championships.

Draft picks can have immediate impact in basketball....they can't in baseball. And since there's no salary cap in baseball, you can retool all you want at the minor league level without it affecting what's going on at the major league level. Practically it still has an effect, because owners' pockets aren't limitless....but nowhere near the effect of the way it works in basketball where you work within the confines of a salary cap.

I'm all for the Rox not assuming that Yao will ever be back. I'm all for that. Because even if he does come back, we'll all be counting down to the next season-ending injury. You can't build around that. You can't count on that. Make bold moves, because you are a team without a superstar at this point....and stars win rings in the NBA.
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Exactly how I feel, must be because we are 'religious'

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leebigez · Jun 30, 2009

thacabbage said:

To borrow from the basics of philosophy, the civilized man is distinguished from the savage mainly by 'prudence' or forethought. He willingly endures present pains for the sake of future pleasures. This became increasingly important with the rise of agriculture as no savage would work in the spring in order to have food next winter.

I'm beginning to see that a lack of prudence is what distinguishes the simpleton sports fan mindset where meaningless 42 win seasons convey instant gratification with no cognizance of a broader paradigm or an ultimate end.

No one here is expecting the team to 'win titles every year' nor is rebuilding mutually exclusive to 'having a team represent your city.' What is being advocated is focused competitiveness where the ultimate end of building a champion is the guiding process in lieu of immediate, ephemeral gains. As for your strawman in citing the Marlins, I fail to see how the extreme example of a team that trades off its stars after titles is relevant to this discussion.
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I think we know where the division always lies on this board. There are some that think the franchise is done for 10 yrs and there are other that have seen this before and know how quickly it can come back. Look no further than Utah,Portland,and Orlando. The Blazer and Jazz made the playoffs for 20 straight years before they finally had a lotto season or 2. Once they had them and let stockton and malone fall off the books, they had the gumption to go buy good,young developing talent like Okur and Boozer. In the meantime, they kept drafting well with williams , brewer,miles and others. They also kept some wily vets like harpring. I'm for rebuilding. Like i've said before, rebuilding shouldn't prevent you from acquiring young talent.

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