I guess you just got confused this Board and some Chinese BBS.and since first day that I saw you on this board,you always bad mouth Yao.what happened?
I love Yao, but I'm saying never not because of how much I like him, because skill wise I think the trigger should be pulled if the right deal comes along, but he draws in way too much money. The Rockets will never trade him
As much as I think that we could improve by moving Yao, continuity is proven to help win championships. Most championship teams have atleast one good to great player who was drafted by that team. It's more likely that you'll win a ring by replacing the parts around your star to improve than replacing the star. It takes teams years to get adjusted to a new style of play around a different star and by then it's too late. Players get older and you have to keep rotating players in and out. If you have a top tier star you should stick with him until it is clear that you have no chance. It just never seems to work out when teams build through free agency and trades - that stuff is for role players.
It depends. If the owner is more interested in making money, then he will not allow the GM to trade Yao, even if it might be in the best interest of the team. If the owner really cares about winning and by winning I mean winning championships, then he will grant the GM permission to trade Yao.
marketing revenues aside, just looking at talent and abilities, there are very few players that you would trade for yao straight up without any hesitation. and none of that chris bosh for yao, or blake griffin for yao garbage. and hakeem got traded when he was old and an average center at best. when yao just becomes an average center, he will still have the marketability to make it worth keeping him in houston.
I'm confused as to how Yao is a cash cow, considering merchandising revenues are distributed evenly between all nba teams. Other than shoe contracts for a few of his teammates, how does Yao, directly, bring $ solely to the Rocket organization?
I had the same exact thought often and made a thread to address it after I saw a rookie ask the question and get ignored. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=169287 Never really got anything but a bunch of angry Yao fans asking how stupid I was for even questioning it.
Very few players stay with the same team for their entire career nowadays so the most likely answer is possibly yes ( I would have put yes but I think he may retire before that happens). This is the team that traded Hakeem so when we reach the point where Yao's effectiviness on the court extremely outweight's his contract and the off the court basketball benefits then he'll get traded.
I'm just summarizing what I've seen happen in almost 40 years of following the Rockets. Technically, I called none of them stars-- just great players I believe. In the title, I spoke of Yao as assets and my question is really about Yao's value both on- and off- the court which when combined would seem to dwarf any of those other ex-Rockets because of the marketing angle. We've had other "great players" who didn't meet this end: Rudy T, Calvin Murphy for example. That may be the end of our great players actually... I just described what had happened and I wanted to see people's reaction. It varies and that is probably good and expected. That's what being a fan or a fan site is about: something to argue about good-naturedly! It is interesting though that all the people who might fall into this category were pivot men-- although Ralph kind of played the 4 or the 4.5!
I don't really know how this works, but it is still a superior factor to have kids in China wearing Rockets jerseys as opposed to Knicks or Laker jerseys-- even if the money gets divvied up evenly.
This really gets me going, but here it is. Yao opens a lot of doors for les and his non basketball business. Yao helps les non basketball business global. Since most owners keep their 2 businesses separate, yao's impact to the rockets is no bigger than dirk. If u don't believe me, look up the cash cows of the teams valued above the rockets. Especially a team like detroit. As long as les is running the rox on the notion a good, not great, injury prone, declining big man is untradeable, the rox won't sniff a ring.
Exactly what I was about to say. Hakeem wasn't untouchable by any means - dude came this close to being dealt. The OP's premise is correct. Yao is the first untradeable asset in this team's history.
Is it fair to say that those were facts and not rumor-mongering. The article makes it sound like the offers came from Houston....
What about TV Contracts? Do we have something similar in China to what we have with FSHouston here? Maybe the money from FSHouston is shared as well, I don't know. What are the aspects that make a franchise more valuable/profitable compared to another??? I really don't know so would like to be educated on this.
you are right, i haven't looked at it like this.... 09 lakers -> kobe bryant (not drafted by lakers, but played his first game for them due to draft day trade so same thing). 08 celtics -> paul pierce 07 spurs -> tim duncan 06 heat -> dwyane wade 05 spurs -> see above 04 pistons -> tayshaun prince is the only starter drafted by them, although this team wasn't really carried by any one player, it was a team effort 03 spurs -> see above 00-02 lakers -> kobe bryant 99 spurs -> david robinson/duncan 96-99 bulls -> jordan/pippen (like kobe not drafted but draft day trade) 94-95 rockets -> dream 91-93 bulls -> see above 89-90 pistons -> isiah thomas/joe dumars 80s showtime lakers -> magic johnson 80s celtics -> larry bird i don't remember bball before the 80s ;P but from as far as i remember except for that 04 pistons at least one of the major stars on the team was drafted by the team. although i can argue that the 06 heat and 00-02 lakers wasn't really originally built to be around wade/kobe (they were too young and unproven to be built around at the time), but more based off shaq but...
Today is ur lucky day. The nba has revenue sharing among the teams. All revenue from national and international tv and radio, jersey sales, dvd, and stuff are shared among the 30 teams. The only money not shared is gate,luxury boxes, concessions,parking, local tv,cable and radio. Any money from outside 75 or 150mile radius is thrown into the the big pot and shared. That's why its important to have a arena lith a lot lux boxes. Also, the amount viewers and listeners in the radius can determine how much money a team can charge for local broadcast. That's why a losing team like the knicks are worth so much. In that 75 mile radius, they can touch about 25 million people whereas the rox can only touch 6m or so. That's why I have said Yao is more valuable to the league than to the rox.
