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Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by wesnesked, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. weslinder

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    What Holder means by "Cop-killer bullets" is Full-metal jacketed bullets. This seems odd to me, because 110 years ago, international law banned anything else for warfare. FMJ are really lousy for defense, but cheap for target practice.
     
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    another thread about guns...

    im kinda on the fence about this one...

    full auto guns are already banned unless you have a special license. it isnt too hard to convert a semi-auto to a full-auto. so i guess it is reasonable to ban certain semi-auto assault rifles.

    i dont really like the limits on magazine capacity. especially for handguns. however, if you really need 30 rounds in a handgun magazine, then maybe you need to work on your aim more. instead of a limit of 10 rounds, how about 15?

    As far as the flow of weapons into mexico... i think thats a bs reason to push this new ban.
     
  3. Bandwagoner

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    Are you serious? I have not kept up with the latest but if they are calling FMJ AP ammo then we are all fugged.
     
  4. danny317

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    man i better get to the gunshow before the new ban gets passed. :D
     
  5. Bandwagoner

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    If it is easy for someone to convert a semi auto gun into full auto then it is also easy for that person to machine a fully auto gun from scratch.

    This is a myth that is being used to sell the semi-auto ban.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    Or maybe gun dealers and distributors could exercise some restraint and not flood border regions with assault rifles etc when they know where it will end up.
     
  7. danny317

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    you just have to get the right replacement parts.

    now getting the license is a whole different story.
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    Selling to strawmen is already illegal. So are assault rifles. I find it humorous that mexico is complaining of our country increasing their countries violence.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    Which gun are you talking about exactly that can be converted with parts and no machining?
    Just want to add for the ATF guy reading, I know that no such guns exist. I just want Danny to figure that out.
     
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    The AK47 is made from a plate of sheet metal. If you can drill half the holes you can also drill the rest and make it on your own. The only thing you cannot make is the barrel so the only way to stop that is to ban all guns using rifled barrels.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    your right... lets just ban all guns. and while we're at it, lets ban rocks and all sharp object...

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    Dude I am trying to teach you in a nice manner. You called me on being a turd in an earlier post and I have changed my tone.

    You have said a few false things and I am politely calling you on it. Try to get this treatment with anyone else on here.

    You logic of Semi-auto could be banned because it can easily be fully-auto has been shown false.
     
  14. danny317

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    yes i conceded the point that some machining is required. but you have to realize that it isnt that hard to change a semi into a full.

    here is another gem i found on google. this on is a video instruction...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEOq-odiEss
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    You can post all the vids you want. The bottom line is it is not easy to a DIY person to do it. Plus you can follow all those instructions but the chance of it working is low. Fully auto is complicated stuff to time correctly. It would be just as easy to make a reciever from scratch.
     
  16. OddsOn

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    Yeah so lets put a law into place that is completely unconstitutional to fix a problem that is related solely to border security.... great idea NOT!
     
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    Ha ha, we're coming to get your guns -- all of them.
     
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    I knew this b.s. was coming. I bought my AR-15, crap loads of 20 and 30 round clips, and thousands of rounds of .223 ammo the very next day after Obama was elected.
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    "You never heard of the give white people's guns to black people bill?"
     
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