If you could, would you keep Yao out of the Beijing Olympics

It's in his contract. Yao is on loan from China to the Rockets. He cannot retire from the CNT.

 

No one knows whether the list of names are Chinese or not? Are you kidding me? Can you even read?

Need me to go on? And everyone knows what nationality the other posters like Dadakota are even if they didn't need to say that to your face. Are you trying to prove to everyone that you can't read? Or are you just dumb?

What other reasons do I still need to give with all these quotes?

Moron.

 

Being committed also means listening to your body. How would everyone feel if after Tracy had the back issues of a couple yrs ago, he played for the qualifying then the Olympics eventhough he couldn't finish the season? That's what I'm talking about. I'm not against representing your country as long as you can fullfill you requirement of your contracts.Its no different than when cuban stated he didn't want Dirk to play a few years ago. What about Gasol messing up his foot and missing 30 gammes to start the season and basically ruined that teams ability to contribute. Why u think football players lose salaries when they get hurt playing pickup hoops part time or in the offseason.

I just think after this if he continues to play summer ball and continues to miss 30 games a season, the rox need to protect themselves. Not only do you have to count on a guy to produce on the court,but to also show up on the court. I just think the extra ball is going to cut short Yao's career. Mark my words, scola is going to struggle this season coming up. Playing 82 plus games and the olympics with no rest and the way he plays, I see trouble.

 

You proved I didn't read every post in this thread. You proved you have time to. So, you win.

You took up a lot of space and time with those quotes, you must have forgotten to respond to my "safe assumption" question but whatever, it must not be reasonable to beleive a Chinese person would want Yao to play for China and a native Houstonian wouldn't.

I honestly wish we would have never gotten Yao in the first place so these dumb conversations would never take place. Then we wouldn't have to hear people b*tching about China this, China that, about a 7'6" turnover prone giant that has a contract that basically turns him into an indentured servant. The guy couldn't even get married without his country saying derogatory things about him. He is one of the better centers in the league, but I would have much rather gotten Amare and let Phoenix deal with all of this Olympics/CNT drama.

Bottom line, he keeps doing all of this, his career is going to last about two more years.

And seriously, stop name-calling. It's stupid and just pisses people off.

 

It really surprises me that nearly half of voters vote for "No".

Let me tell you why I am surprised.

1. Most Yao fans and/or Rockets fans always criticize Chinese government to control Yao too much regarding his summer schedule. Now you guys want to force him out of Olympics, which is one of his biggest dreams (he has said so for numorous times). Remember that this guy is in off season, he can choose to go fishing, go club, or go Olympics.

2. The argument that "we make him rich, and he must follow us". For Les, who does count in the decision-making, he does make Yao rich while Yao makes him richer. Houstonians do pay for tickets and Ad in some way, so do Chinese fans. You want a vote?

3. Yao is no Big Z. Honestly, I don't think Big Z has such a strong desire to play for his country. For the last few years, Big Z always puts his rest over national team duty. Yao is on the other end. And again, he is willing to do that, not being forced to do that.

So be a bit considerate, unselfish, and respective. Let him chase his dream no matter how slim China team has a chance for the medal.

 

You just never know. There was that Team USA Hockey team in 1980 that defeated the heavyly favored Soviet team. The only advantage that team USA had was that they were playing in the USA and on home turf and that they had a lot of heart and grit. One might expect that perhaps the Chinese could pull off a miracle and medal.

 

Certainly, he should play! The Games are in his country. He'll never have an honor in China greater than playing on their Olympic team with his country hosting the games. Having said that, this should end his "obligations" to China regarding playing on the national team. Exhibitions and the like? Of course, as long as he takes it easy and the setting is "informal," being for charity and so on. After these games, Yao needs the summers for rest and working on his game, to fulfill another dream of his... winning a championship for the city of Houston with the Rockets.

 

Ya he should be looking at how Ginobili plays in FIBA tournaments and Olympics and basically do only what he does. Which is avoiding meaningless tournaments and playing only in the big ones like the Olympics. I don't think Manu even played in that Tournament where Scola won his last trophy.

 

Let the man play!

Its an honor to play for your country in the olympics, and also you are going to play in your country, thats huge.

China choosed him to be the image of this summer games, let the guy go and play.

BTW, Im not chinese, and this "Houston vs China" thing is ridiculous.

 

i voted to keep him out

#1 does he even get paid?
#2 increased chance of injuries and reinjuring self
#3 he's only making himself more tired before next season
#4 china will not win...period

yea if i could play for my country i would at any cost too though.

i hate obligations to others!

 

Well, IMHO, your Question/logic 1 ~ 3 for voting Big Yao out for the Beijing Olympics are stupid, and are not any different for other NBA stars for other countries and USA team.

Do you think Luis Scola or Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Dirk Nowitzki, Pau Gasol, Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anothony, Amare Stoudemire even got paid for playing for Argentina, France, Germany, Spain and USA??

And the chances of them getting injured or making them more tired before the new season are lesser?

 

I think they do get paid. I don't know if Yao will get paid.

I would not keep him out but for me the ideal thing is to have him retire from the national team after the olympics.

 

Well, I don't think Big Yao got paid for playing for the national team. In fact, I read back in 2006 World Championship, he paid out of his pockets to loan Anthony Falsone and another physical trainer from Houston Rockets to the national team as the strength and conditioning coaches.

His love for the country, and Chinese basketball is second to none.

 

I guess I can make things interesting... I am Chinese (born in America though) and I am from Houston. I voted yes. The biggest reason is Yao is coming back from an injury and I have no idea where he stands in his rehab. If I had control of the Rockets, I don't think I would tell him he couldn't play, but I think I wouldn't mind too much if he rested. If he never got injured, I wouldn't mind. Granted, I can also can see why he wants to play and it would be a tragic if he was denied the opportunity to play for his Country.

In short, I can see it from both sides and I hope he does well, but I am just a little reserved because of his current injury hence why I voted the way I did. With that being said, I hope Yao medals, but USA wins gold!

 

You know what your problem is? You have been trying to make this out like a confrontation between the Chinese fans and the native Houston fans. Why do you want to do that? I am very curious. And I am not saying that only based on this thread because this is not the first time you have tried to do that. Actually it's your consistent behavior on this board. What is your motive?

What are you talking about there? What is your source? Let me make it very clear to you that it can't possibly be just something that you read on some internet forums. Anyone who is skillful enough to use a mouse and knows a search engine called Google can find thousands of crazy opinions on any single topic every day. Also, you said it's "his country". So unless you are r****ded, you must be talking about more than just a few random folks on the internet. I want a link to prove that "the guy couldn't even get married without his country saying derogatory things about him". You have made that claim and now it's time for you to man up to prove what you said with at least one link. If you can't give one, this is yet another example that you have pulled this smelly **** out of your ass again, which you have done many times before.

Let's read post #66 in this thread:

Who is doing the name calling there? So you have just admitted that you are stupid and you intended to piss people off. Or perhaps you were calling yourself a moron?

 

Well, IIRC, all Big Yao got were blessings and praises from all his friends, fans, CBA officials, national team/Houston Rockets colleagues, people in US/Chinese basketball/sports circles, press/media, and common folks around China for a very low-key, private, down-to-earth, exclusive and not extravagant wedding back last summer.

Celebrities/multi-billionaires like him could well spend over millions for his wedding in China. But surely not for Big Yao.

I did not remember the Chinese press/media complaint or said any thing negative (not to mention derogatory) about him, or his wife or the wedding.

So this has to be some smelly **** out of Mlwoo's @$$ !!!

 

I am sure he is paying for those trainers but it would be unfair if he is not paid the same as the other National Team members.

Not that is matters, it isn't like he is doing it for the money.

Honestly though Yao is either at or past his prime, after the olympics he is muh more valuable to China as face, and good in NBA. They should not risk injury by playing him all the time, at his size a life altering injury is possible.

 

Well, I don't think the national team players are paid at all. In the past Olympics/World Championships or important FIBA tournaments, they maybe given some living allowances as token pocket money. Very often they have to double-up in hotels when they travelled abroad.

IMHO, CBA is getting it. They had not played Yao Ming in the 2006 Asian Games and had sent their Team B for the 2007 Asian Championship which sort of allowed Iran to win it. And for the past summer (2007), he had not been forced/asked even to join the national team for those closed-door training/overseas tournaments.

I trust this will be the on-going trends for the future summers that he is only needed for major tournaments like the 2010 World Championship and the 2012 London Olympics.

 

Post 25, which is before 66:

This is over.

 

Also, here is the link to with Chinese officials criticizing Yao for taking too much time off for his wedding, to recover from the season, and going to the Special Olympics.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=132356

As you will read, the paper is owned by the Chinese government.