Are Asian Americans Politically Apathetic? If so. why?

You're not wrong...I'm just saying IF they were really really informed and active, they'd probably be Libertarians that's all. You are right that the older and rich vote Repub and poorer vote Dem...if anyone votes.

We did get the 1st Vietnamese Texas State Congressman to hold office last year or maybe it was 2 years ago. Alief represent! The white guy incumbent was fightin it too, because the vote was close....dude was trying to hold on to his 20 year office, but failed to see Vietnamese people took over Alief and turned empty crap into an ugly, but commercially prosperous area.

Anyhow, yeah...you are right. I'm just saying culturally, as someone who's related to 300 Vietnamese people in the Htown area with roots back to 1969...my opinion is that they SHould be Libertarian based on the norms of Vietnamese society in America.

 

I'd rather keep it so that politicians don't start campaigning for the Asian vote.

I can tell you that one stat that skews the statistics entirely is that most Asians tend to live in high population states. You have Hawaii, California, New York, at the top tier, and Maryland, Washington, New Jersey in the second tier. None of those states are battleground states.

You'll find that the average person in those states votes at about the same rate as Asian Americans nationwide for the same reason people in those states don't vote as often as in battleground states: because the vote simply doesn't count as much as in other states.

 

I count many Asians amongst my friends and have close relationships with many after having been educated side-by-side with many Asians, worked side-by-side, and socialized with many Asians. My poker group is all Asian except The_Conquistador. Vietnamese and Chinese are the two groups that I've had the most contact with. I am also very comfortable dealing with the Chinese (natives, not Americans) in a business setting, having hosted them several times on trips. So I feel qualified to speak on this topic.

These are generalizations, but I believe Asian-Americans, moreso than any other immigrant group, have a sense of accountability and self-reliance. They are entrepreneurial, ambitious, and driven. They have a strong sense of integrity and honor. They understand the direct relationships between education, hard work and long term success. There is a reason why they emigrated to America -- to have a shot at success. Because of these traits, they do not look to government to solve their problems. They don't point the finger at other people when something goes wrong. They don't rely on government hand-outs to live. These characteristics have them less focused on politics than other racial groups. Their success is a product of their efforts, not Uncle Sam's. I also believe that many Asian-Americans are economic conservatives who are a natural fit for the Republican party -- the party of individual freedoms, small government, and a freedom from excessive taxation.

 

My dad makes a good amount of money and he has been for democratic candidates; so have I and a bunch of my friends. The republican party does not stand for any of these things: the party of individual freedoms, small government.

 

The republican party SHOULD stand for these, you know the dems aren't for small government. Now we just need to get the GOP back on the right rack.

 

I think your views are colored by the fact that only a limited number of Asians can probably handle being around you for any significant length of time. For most others, you'd probably mock their heritage or name or something else and turn them away from you (or do you only do this with African Americans or people with middle-eastern sounding names?). In California in 2004, the state as a whole went to Kerry 54-45. Amongst the 4% of Asian votes, they voted 66% Kerry, 34% Bush.

 

Major your comments are reprehensible. I have never once mocked an Asian person's name or heritage. You disgust me.

 

comedy

 

So you just mock African Americans and people with Middle Eastern sounding names. Good to know it's race-specific.

 

The reason other than warm climate, California was a place where most vietnamese refugees moved to after the war was because of California's very liberal welfare system. You have to remember that the refugees had nothing and needed help getting up on the their feet.

Houston was the other hotspot after war because of the warm climate and strong oil economy around 1975.

 

John Forbes Kerry, Hillaroid, Al Bore yeah thanks for playing.

Are you sharing your account with Rocketman95 again? Sounds like it. That's a match made in heaven -- you being a cheapskate who refuses to donate to Clutch, and he being a hothead who can't behave himself and is banned from D&D.

 

None of those make reference to race or religion as your more recent nicknames. Your history of race-baiting childishness betrays your attempts to portray yourself as non-racist.

 

good to know TJ, although do your friends know that they're eating 'dog food mixed with dirt'? and that god forbid, they're unable to learn English as other good immigrants should?

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If someone needs to explain at length that they aren't a racist before they make a statement aimed at generalizing an entire race...it probably means that they are a racist.

Hell, I don't think you can even generalize the race, it's people from a huge continent with dozens of countries and hundreds of cultures. Anyone claims himself an expert on something that you can't quantify based on some poker partners or co-workers is extremely naive. Let's quantify European-American's next.

I've made sarcastic jokes before saying "I'm not a racist because I work with some black people," but I'm pleasantly surprised to see someone use it in the context where he thought it might actually work.

 

oh snap!

jorge go poof!

 

Ha! I figured someone would do a search, and lo and behold, I am VINDICATED. My point stands. To answer your questions, yes they do know that I won't eat Vietnamese or Thai food. They also know that I don't support using tax dollars to erect Vietnamese signs. And guess what -- THEY AGREE. It's not an issue with them at all, but then again, they don't live in your world of faux outrage and partisan sniping.

Back to the issue of the thread, before I was insulted and then vindicated, Asians don't look to the government for handouts (obviously we know who does)... In my opinion, their inner drive makes it unnecessary. They don't fill up our prison system or riot in the streets. They are a model minority group in every way, and I respect them. I think because of these character traits, they are less involved in politics. I personally would welcome their involvement. In the not too distant future, they will have tremendous collective economic wealth. Just look at the college and graduate program populations these days. Fortunately, we have plenty of room for them under the tent of the party of individual freedoms, low taxes, and small government -- the Republican Party.

 

Hey! I'm part Asian. And I hate the Republicans.

Can we just generalize that to my entire race now?

 

I would love to be able to say I agree with everything you've said. But in this PC enevironment, some people would accuse me of being a bigot too.

So officially, I don't agree.

 

I like being a lazy asian bum.

 

First of all, I have to say that this is probably one of the most racist things I have ever heard on this board, not so much because of the offensiveness of it, but because of the way that no one has seriously addressed it.

Asians face an enormous social stigma of being a "model minority", and must face a very strong glass ceiling in politics (I would argue greater than women and blacks) and achieving the very highest positions in corporations. How about the fact that it took over 40 years before the United States admitted that putting its own citizens into internment camps was wrong? Or the fact that the most decorated combat unit in United States History, the 442nd Reg. Combat Team had to wait 50 years to actually get the military honors they deserved? How about the fact that Abercrombie & Fitch actually though they could get away with putting out "Two Wongs Can Make it White" T-shirts? How about the fact that most roles for Asian-American actors are small, stock characters, bad guys who speak in a foreign language, martial artists, or if they're lead actors, "really white looking" (Keanu Reeves). Studios are still willing to do "yellowface", where even considering putting an actor in "blackface" would be grounds for termination. At least the fetish that white men have for Asian women is giving some actresses a chance; but when the closest you get to a semi-rounded Asian-American male lead character who actually manages to have a romantic conquest is Harold & Kumar, you know that Asian-Americans have problems. Hell, for the first 25 years of its existence ESPN didn't have a single daily Asian-American anchor!

I'm Asian-American, and extremely happy to have a vote this year in a state that matters (Pennsylvania). I think that the problem is that Asians aren't organized into voting blocs like many of the minority groups that the presidential candidates pander to. There aren't any powerful Asian-American lobbyists, and as long as the rest of America believes that Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Filipino and all the other Asian ethnicities are well off and flourishing in silence, the government isn't going to pay any attention to their problems.

Asians don't need help? Save that for when there's a serious Asian-American candidate for president.