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Chron: McGrady endorses offense, Adleman still believes in duo

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketshopeful, Dec 25, 2007.

  1. bbjai

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    I love it how you guys are still arguing over something to so petty when noone is quoting this quality post. Props to you and Post of the Month if we had something like that!!!

    Honestly it says clearly in the article, T-mac lost confidence in his team mates and their ability to put the ball in the basket. From their shooting if i was him i would back myself too. But if he buys in and changes his mentality, which is going to be hard but doable and will take time. The offence will be for the better
     
  2. Texas Stoke

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    I'm all for buying into Rick Adelmans system, Yao Ming is shooting his lower FG% of his career, whats not to like?
     
  3. blastaway

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    If you think my argument doesn't make sense, it only means that YOU can't understand it. It's not my problem if you brain can't comprehend these concepts beyond records.

    Nevertheless, it seems as you are taking this too personal and may be getting close to a break down, so I won't disect your statements here as I did before...don't wont you to lose it or anything.

    I will just stick by what I said..and state that if Adelman doesn't change his style, which he is capable of doing and I hope he does, but if he continues to coach this team the way they have been coached so far this season, expect to not even make the playoffs!

    Then you can preach to me all of his coaching credentials and how he took a better retooled previous 52 win team to the lottery! :D

     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I don't think anyone really knows the answer to that. It takes so many ingredients and moving pieces to become a legit contender.

    But here's what we do know, this team will be playing a lot better.

    I'd be very surprised if we don't come on strong pretty soon and climb back into the top 5 or 6 seeds in the WC. Will we be a contender? Probably not, but it's not out of the question. A lot of what makes a contender is rich talent, great chemistry, everyone understanding their roles clearly, unselfish play, effective coaching, dedication on a team and individual level, trust and confidence and other things - but these are the things I think we can have. So ya know, let's see what happens now.
     
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    Words.....Words........All I can see is just words......and STILL the ME-I-MY mentality.

    Tracy McGrady mentioned about good ball or without-ball movement and openings. But every time when he has the rock, he just hogs on the ball too long, and offense becomes stagnant starting from him.

    And there were a few instances in recent games when every of his team mates were running back court as fast and hard as they could to defend the opponent's fast breaks, after he bricked or got fouled but no call, he was still there arguing with the referees at the front court.
     
  6. daddy cool

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    Great post
     
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    good read, I hope the rox turn it around.
     
  8. Bob Monkeyson

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    I can't post a thread and I haven't seen this posted yet, so I'll post it here:

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/5402893.html

     
  9. pryuen

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    I m not feeling in the same way.

    Dont ever forget Rick took a matured team over which just stopped in front of the door to the second round of playoffs. It is not a raw team. It is a team who has two superstars working for 4 years and the potential to be going futher in the playoffs season.

    If we still say 'JVG got 4 years time, why not give Rick another 4 years', I just dont see any rational logic behind that assertion.

    I m not saying Rick is not good, but he needs to prove he is good in a shortened time period--1 year rather than 3 or 4 years.

    As far as I am concerned with the last 28 games, I am quite happy with the changes of our offense. Sure, its an ongoing process and the pain must be on the back.
     
  11. Bob Monkeyson

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    woh. first you state that you do not agree with a post, then you give your reason with an absolutely ridiculous point which has absolutely nothing to do with why you didn't agree with the post.

    then you made an acquisition of me saying "'JVG got 4 years time, why not give Rick another 4 years'", i don't know where you even got that from.

    Then you finish your post by going off to another topic that has nothing to do with anything, and begin to touch on another subject at the same time, while still not making sense about anything that you were saying, even though you weren't even stating anything that had to do with why you didn't agree with a post.
     
  13. oneonepyopyo

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    I bascially agree with your other statement except The BIG RED WORDS which DOES catch my eyeballs.

    "Jeff Van Gundy had... 4 full years to get the team where he wanted them... Adelman has had... 2 months! "

    1. AD has been the Rox coach for nearly 7 months. It's not like he just took over the team in the middle of this season

    2. See whether my understanding is right.

    U were saying that Adelman did not have enough time to let the Rox rock and roll? For how long does he need? If it's a year, I could live with that. If it's three years or more, see my statement above.

    please chill man. Nothing personal:) .
     
  14. oneonepyopyo

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    Sorry for my laziness not quoting that statement. i think i need to learn how to cut those damn codes in
     
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    not 7 months. training camp starts about a month before the season, so if you are going to count training camp, then he's had 3 months.



    i think we should see how this season ends up. If things don't turn around and start coming together by the end of the season, then we need to look for changes. I'm pretty confident that so far this last 8 wins and 14 losses, has been our 'hitting the bottom', which Rick said at the very beginning of the season might happen, and that sometimes thats what happens in order for greatness(or change, can't remember) happen.

    looking at the sixers and raptors games, i think the team has definitely hit the bottom, and they are MUCH better than this. I think the players are starting to buy into this system which is a good sign, and i can only see them improving from here on out. I think they will get stronger and stronger every week, and by march, i think they will have it down to a comfortable level.

    We should definitely get into the playoffs, and with this new system, and depending on the health of the team and francis, we could have a chance for the title. Even if we don't, as long as things are looking good by feb-march, we definitely give adelman another year to fine-tune and advance his system. By then, the end of next season, if we still are not happy with things, then we need to make more big changes, but i don't see any of that happening.

    I see us with a good shot of winning the title this year, if we stay healthy. Next year, things should get even better since the first year is the learning process, and the second year is the time to capitalize the system.
     
  16. oneonepyopyo

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    Couldnt agree more!!! ;)

    From our rotations on the court, I assume that Rick is not stiff as JVG(I m not saying JVG is not a good coach. He did a good job, but not a great job). Like what the others have pointed out here, our starters are buying into the AD's system. That is really a good sign.

    Just one thing I m really not comfortable with is T-mac's body is really like a time bomb... With 20 million dollars salary, we just can not neglect him... Sigh!


    I think we are both right about his coaching period. He has been announced as Rox's coach for nearly 7 months. I m not sure where we should start to count :confused:
     
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    Four of five games lost
    The stretch began with a home loss to Dallas followed by a double-overtime loss the next night in Denver. The Rockets whipped the similarly weary Bulls with by far their best offensive game of the season before crumbling in the second half and falling behind by 20 in a loss to Detroit.

    It should say ORLANDO!

    It's 28 games in, you can't give up on the duo already. The team needs time to readjust to the new system. I'd rather we build up momentum and start clicking and taking it to another level in May and June rather than just coasting through right now. Yeah it will be nice to have home court advantage but if you're playing great ball, the road shouldn't make too much of a difference. We're only what, 6-7 games from 1st place in the west? We just need a little win streak and the schedule should start getting softer now.

    GO Rockets!
     
  18. ooliverb1

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    I think Adleman did himself some dis-service in all his talk before the season starts. All we hear was "make Yao's life easier", make TMac's life easier". etc.

    Then after the team performed badly, there suddenly talk from him or the Rockets organization about "adjustment" period...
     
  19. v3.0

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    Well, he made one of those guys life easier...TMac gets to duck out of games early and sit in the locker room.
     
  20. solid

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    PR-Spin, "It's Time," yatta yatta yatta, see you on the court. :rolleyes: And so far, not seeing much. These press releases are for the casual fan, not the hardcore fan like us. Meaningless babble.
     

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