I told you AM2 has some issues about online play. They're just another Japanese developer that doesn't "get it." Online play for VF5 could have done a lot for the franchise and the genre. Too bad they didn't see things that way (or that they didn't want to sacrifice "perfection" for it).
Well than that's fair. I think MKII was more sought after but I don't think much would come from us arguing over if MKII or Ultimate is better. I think it's really dumb of you to make an assessment a system being good for a genre when it has not been out much more than 6 months. There are more RPGs on the 360 then PS3 at this point. Would you say the 360 is the RPG gamers system? Again, wait until the ps3's first real holiday season. Jesus, how many games have been released after the initial launch? Wait until we see what the machine can roll out in software until you say it is poorly suited for a specific game type VF5 is amazing. Tekken 5 has already been released and Tekken 6 is on the way, as is RAMPAGE WORLD TOUR (with online play). Yes Live is vastly superior to what Sony has now but is has been around a lot longer. Sony is not charging to get online so look for online gaming for the ps3 to grow in even proportions to the system's continued sales.
Here are some sales from Japan during the last week (ending 5/20). Japan Hardware: Hardware - This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD 1. NDS - 111,239 | 163,824 | 3,163,455 | 17,169,134 2. WII - 52,193 | 52,544 | 1,556,909 | 2,476,552 3. PSP - 27,505 | 34,433 | 901,333 | 5,433,462 4. PS2 - 10,881 | 10,414 | 345,899 | 20,500,758 5. PS3 - 8,659 | 8,839 | 434,554 | 892,112 6. 360 - 2,026 | 2,105 | 97,681 | 362,383 7. GBA - 791 | 769 | 36,867 | 15,334,946 8. NGC - 276 | 315 | 7,354 | 4,176,822 Japan Software: 01./00. [PS2] Shining Wind (Sega) - 78,030 / NEW 02./00. [NDS] Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2 (Nintendo) - 70,821 / NEW 03./00. [PS2] Odin Sphere (Atlus) - 59,248 / NEW 04./01. [PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (Square-Enix) - 39,480 / 194,371 05./03. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 27,788 / 1,601,564 06./02. [NDS] Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (Square-Enix) - 23,904 / 445,237 07./04. [NDS] More Brain Age (Nintendo) - 18,790 / 4,284,904 08./07. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 18,179 / 1,317,807 09./05. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 17,862 / 4,458,786 10./08. [WII] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo) - 15,816 / 133,304 11./06. [WII] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo) 12./10. [NDS] Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo) 13./09. [NDS] Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (Hudson) 14./11. [NDS] More English Training (Nintendo) 15./13. [NDS] Phoenix Wright 4 (Capcom) 16./16. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) 17./00. [NDS] Custom Beat Battle Draglade (Banpresto) 18./17. [NDS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo) 19./18. [NDS] Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (Level 5) 20./12. [NDS] Brain Age (Nintendo) 21./14. [NDS] Panel de Pon DS (Nintendo) 22./15. [NDS] Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo) 23./22. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom) 24./20. [NDS] English Training (Nintendo) 25./25. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (Square-Enix) 26./21. [NDS] Word Puzzle Mojipittan DS (Bandai-Namco) 27./24. [NDS] Kanji Brain Test 2M (IE Institute) 28./19. [NDS] Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo) 29./31. [NDS] Pokémon Diamond (Pokemon) 30./44. [WII] One Piece: Unlimited Adventure (Bandai-Namco) 31./27. [PSP] Final Fantasy (Square-Enix) 32./36. [NDS] Pokémon Pearl (Pokemon) 33./30. [NDS] Tetris DS (Nintendo) 34./32. [PS2] Pro Baseball Spirits 4 (Konami) 35./29. [NDS] Kanji Test (Rocket Co.) 36./00. [WII] Case Closed! Mirage of Recollection (Marvelous Interactive) 37./35. [NDS] Big Brain Academy (Nintendo) 38./38. [NDS] DS Kageyama Method Electronic Kanji Drills (Shogakukan) 39./23. [NDS] 1000 Recipes (Nintendo) 40./40. [NDS] Nodame Cantabile (Bandai-Namco) 41./33. [NDS] Phoenix Wright 2 (Capcom) 42./28. [NDS] Cooking Navi (Nintendo) 43./37. [PS2] Musou Orochi (Koei) 44./43. [NDS] Crayon Shin-chan DS: Arashi wo Sakebunutte Crayon Daisakusen! (Banpresto) 45./41. [NDS] SimCity DS (EA) 46./50. [WII] Wario Ware Smooth Moves (Nintendo) 47./34. [PS2] Persona 3: Fes (Atlus) 48./42. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Portable 2 (Konami) 49./46. [NDS] TOEIC Test Training DS (IE Institute) 50./39. [NDS] Puyo-Puyo! (Sega) If you're not used to these types of numbers, the first number is the position in the chart (1-50), the next number is the position the game was at last week (with 00 indicating a new release), and the last two numbers indicate the sales for the game during that week and the game's total sales (this is only for the top 10 games though). Credit to NeoGAF (and Cheesemeister specifically for posting the numbers in an easy-to-read fashion) and Media Create of Japan for the numbers. I thought about posting European sales, but there are only software rankings for each major country (UK, Ireland, Germany, etc.), which doesn't really gives us that much. I might post them from time to time for major releases, but I don't really feel like bothering with it for now.
I'm a huge supporter of Sony, owning PS2, PSP, and having previously owned PS1. I will eventually buy a PS3 because I love both MGS series and the Final Fantasy series. But as of right now, even the biggest PS fans have no reason to get the system. As the sales records indicates, PS2 has plenty of good games right now to take up my time. And there's no must-buy titles for PS3. What's the point? I already have a notebook to serve as my computer. I don't need to spend $600 on another one unless it can do something more.
Another week of sales from Japan: DSL 127,461 Wii 58,644 PSP 26,097 PS2 11,311 PS3 9,627 Xbox360 2,044 GBM 407 GBASP 288 GC 256 DS 81 GBA 17 01./00. [NDS] Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest (Bandai-Namco) - 40,741 / NEW 02./00. [PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 4 (Sony) - 37,764 / NEW 03./00. [NDS] Lucky Star Moé Drill: Travel (Kadokawa Shoten) - 30,397 / NEW 04./05. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 27,642 / 1,629,207 05./04. [PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (Square-Enix) - 26,019 / 220,390 06./07. [NDS] More Brain Age (Nintendo) - 22,378 / 4,307,282 07./09. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 21,472 / 4,480,257 08./00. [NDS] Kurikin: Nano Island Story (Nintendo) - 20,792 / NEW 09./14. [NDS] More English Training (Nintendo) - 19,375 / 237,206 10./08. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 18,477 / 1,336,284 11./00. [360] Forza Motorsport 2 (Microsoft) 12./01. [PS2] Shining Wind (Sega) 13./12. [NDS] Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo) 14./00. [PS2] Pachinko Ultraman: Iron Pachi-Chonmage 12 (Hackberry) 15./11. [WII] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo) 16./06. [NDS] Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (Square-Enix) 17./13. [NDS] Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (Hudson) 18./16. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) 19./20. [NDS] Brain Age (Nintendo) 20./24. [NDS] English Training (Nintendo) 21./10. [WII] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo) 22./18. [NDS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo) 23./03. [PS2] Odin Sphere (Atlus) 24./19. [NDS] Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (Level 5) 25./15. [NDS] Phoenix Wright 4 (Capcom) 26./27. [NDS] Kanji Brain Test 2M (IE Institute) 27./02. [NDS] Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2 (Nintendo) 28./22. [NDS] Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo) 29./00. [PS2] Medal of Honor: Vanguard (EA) 30./23. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom)
Here are the sales from May in the US: http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16507 Might get some more info later since I don't think the NPD has officially released the numbers to the media. And Japan sales from the last two weeks: 01./00. [NDS] Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest (Bandai-Namco) - 40,741 / NEW 02./00. [PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 4 (Sony) - 37,764 / NEW 03./00. [NDS] Lucky Star Moé Drill: Travel (Kadokawa Shoten) - 30,397 / NEW 04./05. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 27,642 / 1,629,207 05./04. [PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (Square-Enix) - 26,019 / 220,390 06./07. [NDS] More Brain Age (Nintendo) - 22,378 / 4,307,282 07./09. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 21,472 / 4,480,257 08./00. [NDS] Kurikin: Nano Island Story (Nintendo) - 20,792 / NEW 09./14. [NDS] More English Training (Nintendo) - 19,375 / 237,206 10./08. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 18,477 / 1,336,284 11./00. [360] Forza Motorsport 2 (Microsoft) 12./01. [PS2] Shining Wind (Sega) 13./12. [NDS] Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo) 14./00. [PS2] Pachinko Ultraman: Iron Pachi-Chonmage 12 (Hackberry) 15./11. [WII] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo) 16./06. [NDS] Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (Square-Enix) 17./13. [NDS] Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (Hudson) 18./16. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) 19./20. [NDS] Brain Age (Nintendo) 20./24. [NDS] English Training (Nintendo) 21./10. [WII] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo) 22./18. [NDS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo) 23./03. [PS2] Odin Sphere (Atlus) 24./19. [NDS] Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (Level 5) 25./15. [NDS] Phoenix Wright 4 (Capcom) 26./27. [NDS] Kanji Brain Test 2M (IE Institute) 27./02. [NDS] Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2 (Nintendo) 28./22. [NDS] Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo) 29./00. [PS2] Medal of Honor: Vanguard (EA) 30./23. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom) 31./28. [NDS] Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo) 32./25. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (Square-Enix) 33./30. [WII] One Piece: Unlimited Adventure (Bandai-Namco) 34./26. [NDS] Word Puzzle Mojipittan DS (Bandai-Namco) 35./21. [NDS] Panel de Pon DS (Nintendo) 36./29. [NDS] Pokémon Diamond (Pokemon) 37./17. [NDS] Custom Beat Battle Draglade (Banpresto) 38./35. [NDS] Kanji Test (Rocket Co.) 39./38. [NDS] DS Kageyama Method Electronic Kanji Drills (Shogakukan) 40./32. [NDS] Pokémon Pearl (Pokemon) 41./49. [NDS] TOEIC Test Training DS (IE Institute) 42./33. [NDS] Tetris DS (Nintendo) 43./00. [NDS] Touch Detective 2½ (Success) 44./40. [NDS] Nodame Cantabile (Bandai-Namco) 45./00. [NDS] Hoshigami (ASNetworks) 46./00. [NDS] Middle School English Vocabulary Target 1800 DS (IE Institute) 47./37. [NDS] Big Brain Academy (Nintendo) 48./34. [PS2] Pro Baseball Spirits 4 (Konami) 49./00. [NDS] Tamagotchi's Splendid Rainbow-venture (Bandai-Namco) 50./42. [NDS] Cooking Navi (Nintendo) NDS 123,211 WII 69,748 PSP 26,358 PS2 11,814 PS3 8,998 360 2,219 GBA 573 NGC 226 01./00. [PS2] Hisshou Pachinko/Pachislo Capture Series, Vol. 10: CR Neon Geneses Evangelion (D3 Publisher) - 80,586 / NEW 02./01. [NDS] Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training (Nintendo) - 62,537 / 157,371 03./00. [PSP] Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another Road (Bandai-Namco) - 44,337 / NEW 04./00. [PSP] Final Fantasy II (Square-Enix) - 36,637 / NEW 05./05. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 29,570 / 1,687,388 06./03. [NDS] Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2 (Nintendo) - 26,078 / 139,988 07./00. [WII] Harvest Moon: Tree of Peace (Marvelous Interactive) - 21,866 / NEW 08./06. [NDS] More Brain Age (Nintendo) - 21,680 / 4,349,623 09./08. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 20,897 / 1,376,899 10./07. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 19,715 / 4,519,879 11./02. [WII] Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (Capcom) 12./09. [NDS] More English Training (Nintendo) 13./13. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) 14./10. [NDS] Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (Hudson) 15./17. [NDS] Brain Age (Nintendo) 16./12. [NDS] Kurikin: Nano Island Story (Nintendo) 17./22. [NDS] Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (Level 5) 18./16. [NDS] English Training (Nintendo) 19./15. [NDS] Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo) 20./18. [NDS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo) 21./14. [WII] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo) 22./11. [PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (Square-Enix) 23./20. [NDS] Kanji Brain Test 2M (IE Institute) 24./00. [NDS] Detailed Japanese History B Total Training (Bandai-Namco) 25./00. [NDS] Stock Trader Shun (Capcom) 26./21. [WII] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo) 27./25. [NDS] Phoenix Wright 4 (Capcom) 28./28. [NDS] Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest (Bandai-Namco) 29./27. [NDS] Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo) 30./00. [NDS] Detailed World History B Total Training (Bandai-Namco) There is only software numbers for the last week of sales. Hardware sales should be posted later on today, although I didn't feel like waiting for them when I posted this. I might edit them in later. edit: OK, hardware sales in Japan for the last week: NDS 117,228 WII 64,529 PSP 24,711 PS2 11,097 PS3 8,776 360 2,533 GBA 799 NGC 167 And the official set of numbers from the NPD for May sales in the US (basically the HW sales mentioned above, plus numbers for the top 10 software): Hardware NDS 423,150 WII 338,278 PSP 221,120 PS2 187,765 360 154,932 PS3 81,604 GBA 80,554 NGC 10,728 Software 331k NDS POKEMON DIAMOND VERSION 314k WII MARIO PARTY 8 249k PS2 SPIDER-MAN 3 238k NDS POKEMON PEARL VERSION 227k WII PLAY W/ REMOTE 217k 360 FORZA MOTORSPORT 2 184k 360 GUITAR HERO 2 W/ GUITAR 140k 360 SPIDER-MAN 3 138k 360 COMMAND & CONQUER 3: TIBERIUM WARS 131k PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR
I was looking into buying a PS3 but when i walked into gamestop telling them all they told me was i was basically gonna buy an over price coffee table haha
Im glad they know their shlt at gamestop and you are intelligent enough to have your purchases dictated by a pimply-faced fanboy. lol maybe someday they will find something to do with the ps3 besides putting oversized books right next to the spot where you put your feet up. I MEAN RIGHT GUYS?!111
Sony should add the fact that it is a good coffee table to their bullet points. It is a Blu-ray player, a personal computer, a device capable of media streaming, it plays video games, and it is a coffee table. Getting the same experience from the 360, Wii, or some other system would cost you well over $600 given the price of a decent coffee table these days. BTW, I updated my previous post with hardware sales in Japan from last week, and the software sales of the top 10 titles from last month in the US.
NPD sales from August (via NeoGAF): edit: A bit more data... Lair sold 46.5K copies and the retail version of Warhawk sold 58.6K copies. Not bad...maybe even pretty good given the circumstances for each. 69.5K GBAs were sold in the month as well.
Yea I saw the September sales on the IGN Boards. Halo 3's impact is absolutely INSANE! That game is truely a system seller!
Think I'll start putting quarter results here... Microsoft: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=16006 The last (and only other) time this division posted a profit was when Halo 2 released. Hmm...if only they could release one of those every quarter. Sony: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=15997 Nintendo: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=15994 I think these are the latest LTDs for the main 3 (all numbers are shipped to retailers I believe): PS3 - 5.59 million Wii - 13.17 million 360 - 13.4 million Here are some numbers for the rest if anyone cares: PS2 - 123.87 million GBA - 80.48 million NDS - 53.64 million PSP - 30.11 million Credit to Parmenides at NeoGAF for collecting that information.