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Israeli Commandos get Caught in Lebananon ; 1 killed in Operation

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  1. glynch

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    It is important to remember that the Shia at 40% are by far the largest group in Lebanon, which has perahps 10 ethnic/religious communities.. Hezbollah is largely an organization of the Shia. These people and their descendants have lived in this land uninterruptedly since before the folks living there were divided by the creation of different religions such as Judaism or Islam.

    Israel has occupied parts of the West Bank, but also parts of Lebanon and Syria for many years. It is problematical to say that any killing of Israeli soldiers or settlers in these territories is "terrorism" and that these group should pacifically accept Israeli occupation for an indeterminate time before Israel will discuss returning the seized land from these three areas. It is doubtful Americans would agree to a similar arrangement if Mexico seized part of the US and then made a similar offer to eventually negotiate a possible return of some the seized land if all violent resistance ended.
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    Hezbollah claims it foiled IDF raid near Baalbek
    IDF officer killed in commando raid in east Lebanon; Raid aimed to prevent arms deliveries to Hebzollah
    By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and News Agencies

    An Israel Defense Forces officer was killed and two other officers were wounded - one seriously - during a commando raid near the Hezbollah stronghold of Baalbek in eastern Lebanon early Saturday.

    Hezbollah's Al-Manar TV said the unit was transported by helicopter before dawn, and was being driven in two vehicles to raid the office of senior Hezbollah official Sheikh Mohammed Yazbek in the village of Bodai before being intercepted by Hezbollah militants.

    The commandos identified themselves as the Lebanese army, but the guerrillas grew suspicious and gunfire erupted, forcing the unit to retreat.


    Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora said the raid was a "naked violation" of a United Nations truce between Israel and Hezbollah.


    "It is a naked violation of the cessation of hostilities declared by the Security Council," Siniora told reporters. He said he protested the incident to visiting UN envoys who would take the matter up with Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

    Lebanese security officials later said that three Hezbollah guerillas were killed in the fighting.

    Parliament Speaker Nabih Beri, Hezbollah's main ally in government, said he also raised the incident with the envoys.

    "If Lebanon had launched a similar act, wouldn't the Security Council have met to impose tough sanctions against it?" Beri asked, adding that he saw the raid as an attempt by Israel to provoke Hezbollah into retaliation and foil the deployment of the Lebanese army in south Lebanon
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    "I'm sure that the resistance (Hezbollah) has enough awareness and realization of the conspiracy to refrain ... from retaliating ...," he said.

    Earlier Saturday, Israeli aircraft fired several rockets at a target in a Hezbollah stronghold in eastern Lebanon early on Saturday morning, a Lebanese security source said.

    The IDF said the assault aimed to disrupt arms smuggling to Hezbollah from Iran and Syria and that such operations would continue until "an effective monitoring unit" was in place to prevent Hezbollah from rebuilding its arsenal.

    "Special forces carried out an operation to disrupt terror actions against Israel with an emphasis on the transfer of munitions from Syria and Iran to Hezbollah," the IDF said, adding that the operation had achieved all its aims.

    "If the Syrians and Iran continue to arm Hezbollah in violation of the (UN cease-fire) resolution, Israel is entitled to act to defend the principle of the arms embargo," Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said. "Once the Lebanese army and the international forces are active... then such Israeli activity will become superfluous."

    The provincial government official, Bekaa Valley Gov. Antoine Suleiman, confirmed the troop landing.

    Following the battle, Israel Air Force helicopters fired missiles as the commandos withdrew, leaving the area within an hour.

    Witnesses at the site saw a destroyed bridge about 500 meters from the area where the landing took place. The witnesses said they believed it was destroyed by Israeli missiles.

    IAF warplanes crisscrossed the skies above Lebanon's eastern Bekaa Valley early Saturday near Baalbek, security officials said.

    The IAF has not attacked Lebanon since the UN cease-fire was implemented August 14.

    The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to release information to reporters, could not confirm whether there were any airstrikes.

    Similar overflights were reported in the area Friday night.

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/752185.html
     
  2. blazer_ben

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    Dosent Lebbanon have any Airforce. why cant the They Intercept the Isrealie jets?
     
  3. A_3PO

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    Lebanon. Air Force? You kidding?

    Seriously, I think they have an official "Air Force" but no fighter planes.
     
  4. thumbs

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    Surely you jest.

    Considering the terms of the ceasefire agreement and being reasonably certain that Hezbollah controls the Lebanese army and government, if I were an Israeli, I would be sending hundreds of drones all over the "zone" photographing (documenting) the Syrian/Irani resupply effort. If nothing were done about it by designated U.N. forces, I'd arm the drones and send them out like a cloud of mosquitoes. That is if I were an Israeli. Fortunately, I'm not.
     
  5. blazer_ben

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    For a country that is so geo-politicaly important, i can't fathom how on gods green earth, there so Weak militarily.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Occupied by Syria, and Israel in the last 20 years, they are a teetering democracy.

    Actually we should have been supporting the Lebanese government instead of invading Iraq.

    DD
     
  7. Ubiquitin

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    I am saddened by the fact I was correct when I said to myself Israel would break the ceasefire.
     
  8. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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  9. DaDakota

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    If arms are coming into Hezzbollah then they are in violation as well.

    2 wrongs - keep it fair Azadre.

    And, go read my long winded post, which was inspired by you in the other thread.

    DD
     
  10. Deckard

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    They might consider an Adlai Stevenson moment at the UN. That would rock.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  11. blazer_ben

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    The US could have helped out in lebbanon alot more then it should have. The test is now, will the US allow the Mollah's to Rebuild Southern Lebbanon. Iranian money which s hould be spent in iran, is allready being poured into Southern lebbanon.
     
  12. insane man

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    talk about a freaking flaw in a logic.

    so just because there is suspicion that hezbollah might be breaking some parts of UN resolution, israel feels the need to unilaterally take care of that by clearing violating the UN resolution?
     
  13. underoverup

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    Yes. I'd like to see him at work for peace. If only.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    I doubt they went in on suspicion.

    :rolleyes:

    I guess it was suspicion that fired all those Rockets into Israel.

    DD
     
  16. jo mama

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    hey, this line of thinking worked great for us in iraq!
     
  17. TL

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    Israel hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt.
     
  18. insane man

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    um theres been a cease fire. are you really incapable of grasping that? cease fire. you can't harp on stuff that happened before. and if you do remmeber 150-200 israelis killed versus over a 1000 lebanese killed. and the militants/civilians count incriminates israel overwhelmingly.

    but sorry. such logic probably wouldn't click in your brain.
     
  19. thumbs

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    Disagree. I would say they have. They were the ones who were attacked from Lebanon in July.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Riddle me this Insanity guy, how exactly did Hezzbollah get all those Rockets in the first place? Did they make them on their own? Did they buy them?

    No? Well, how then?

    Because countries like Iran and Syria are too COWARDLY to attack Israel on their own and they use idiots like Hezzballoh to provoke them.

    DD
     

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