Excellent pickup. As for taunting the bench, how many times does that happen? Teams have picked up players they have had run ins with all the time.
Well, if it was a racist remark that is different. At least he apologized sincerely which is all you can ask for.
I agree. Not only he is very mature, that is some outstanding youthful talent and energy and attitude being injected into this team. I think NBA championship teams over the years have shown you you don't need a bunch of superstars, just a core group of superstars and some very good role-players. The Rockets are going about this the right way.
The Spurs first championship team's starting 2-guard was Jaren Jackson. The Lakers SFs, do you even REMEMBER their SFs? The Pistons won a championship basically with role-players. The Rockets won a championship with Mad Max at 2-guard one year and Chucky Brown at PF. You don't need a name player at a position to win a title if you have the rest of the roster set up right.
If you want to win with the team the Rockets have......... This move to be starting Sg does not count it. Of course the issue that those other teams mentioned were much better all around with supporting cast must not matter. Yao and T-Mac supporting cast right now as it is then Synder being part of it as starting Sg is NOT making a serious effort to win a title. Sure we have not used the MLE or big TE but seeing as what's available let's not hol our breath. Way too many apologists on this board. We are looking at Yao and T-Mac for 3 years (because it looks more and more clear they have no intention of challenging this year ) with no title or even a serious run at one, unacceptable.
No, I didn't expect you to just restate what you previously posted, I wanted to know what you would do. I am no apologist, but have been batting around ideas on how to fill several big holes with our limited resources and Mike James would have been a big piece to the puzzle. But that excepted, Battier and Snyder are nice additions assuming you don't expect too much out of them statistically. I said point blank that Snyder is a rotational player at the two, along with Head and McGrady. Do you think they traded for Snyder to be a full-time starter at the two? Well, that's what you said in the earlier post and in the most recent one. No one, and please go back and read my post, suggests that Snyder will be a starer. But as a 23-year old, 2-year veteran who was a 1st rounder and whom we got on the cheap after starting two-thirds of his games with the NO/OK last year, I would say he is a good get. He won't put you over the tip, but you treat this as if it's actually a black mark. Then you go on to say this is unacceptable. What is unacceptable? Picking up a guy like Snyder to be a rotational player? It seemed to work out fine for Dallas with Adrian Griffin and the stiffs they have at center. And I can agree that there aren't a ton of options out there right now, but if we do something like signing Banks/Spanoulis with our MLE, use the TE in a sign-and-trade for someone like Jeffries or Lorenzen Wright or Tony Battie, then we are in much better shape than some assume. We may still not be over the top, but again: What options do we have? It's not enough to condemn every move the team makes, but not offer a substantive solution. What would you do with those given assets?
You get what you pay for. He's been traded twice in two years, he just got traded for a bag of peanuts, you have his 2 former coaches saying he didn't improve enough. He thinks he's the second coming of Ray Allen, chucking up threes all over the place. He is not happy about starting but has never proved he is good enough to start but bellyaches about not starting. Snyder does come cheap but he is no Boris Diaw and I think Luther Head is a more talented player than Snyder.
I'm optimistic. I like our team. Yao and Dikembe are our big men..and we don't have to go with Dikembe..we can go small. Howard and Hayes at the 4..and then Battier can play the 4 sometimes..or Tmac (rarely)..and I guess Novak? Then we have a bunc hof interchangeable guys like Battier, Tmac, Snyder. We also have Bowen, Head, and Novak who can serve various purposes: defense, err hustle and quickness with smaller guys, and shooting. At point, we have Alston and maybe Sura. Getting Banks would be great and JLIII as 3rd string player. I'm fine with Howard and Hayes. Howard has been good for us. I hope Hayes can play well. I think this team is capable of being successful.
You're barking up the wrong tree, Rserina. Don't expect to get any sort of logical, rational feedback from Rockets Dynasty - nor any constructive criticism. His forte is pessimistic, doom & gloom, chicken little like pronouncements. THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! I have finally given up on him and added him to my ignore list. I have no problem with differing opinions, but he's proved in this thread that he just wants to argue and root against management regardless of the quality of the move. They pulled a rabbit out of a hat for us on this move and he's talking like it's a setback. He can't form a decent argument or offer ideas on better moves - just b**** and moan, b**** and moan. If you have any kind of problem with his whining then you are an apologist for management! He's the kind of fan I wish we could trade to the Mavericks.
Are you kidding? All we needed to contend last year was TMac. Everyone is upset about James not coming well James is NOT the reason we had a good year two years ago. It was TMac. You people forget so quickly about how good this guy is. We were 1 game from advancing two years ago and this years team is better than that years was. We will easily make playoffs IF TMac stays healthy and there is a good chance we can advance out of first round and who knows maybe further!
People who use an ignore list because they don't like someone saying the Rockets are not serious about winning a title (I've been told now by at least 5 people I have been "ignored" simply because they were tired of hearing me complain about the talent surrounding Yao and T-Mac) is frankly immature and downright hypocritical.
OK Chicken Little, 1. This team is undeniably better than the team we fielded last year (Battier, Snyder added; Yao becoming dominant; Head and JL3 and VS developing well; Novak pleasantly surprising; Sura could be back by the end of the season even) 2. We were 21-10 with T-mac and Yao (who wasnt even dominant Yao yet) together, and we have added the numerous above pieces-- thus making this an even more potent team 3. We still have out TE and MLE, and while CD is a terrible drafter, he is good at making trades. I think we are not even close to done yet, and I think we will pick up at least 1 more viable SG and PF before the end of free agency. Is this team ready to contend? No. But will it be scary in the playoffs? Well, I wouldnt want to play us. But only time will tell, and the offseason is still young.
Why not just trade for Francis. Thomas wants expiring contracts/young players with potential on rookie scale deals according to a few rumors out of New York in exchange for Steve, and would like a PG in return. No problem................ "Moneyball" has the perfect answer since so many cheap scrubs will be lining the Rockets roster. Send them cap filler -------> Chuck Hayes, Lonny Baxter (signed at minimum), Ryan Bowen send them trade for Francis --------> Luther Head, Rafer Alston send them some other scrub we can find signed for one year like Pat Carroll or whomever (guys like Baxter and Bowen that they can just cut cheap right off) and send them Deke, since he would be an expriring deal, and could at least help them for one year more than Jerome James. From a financial perspective it is exactly what Knicks want. Also Knicks get Head and Rafer in place of Francis in essence. Caveat, the Knicks would then turn around and cut Chuck Hayes and Baxter, who could then be immediately re-signed. All the Rockets then have to do is split the MLE on Spanoulis and Jumaine Jones....... sign Padgett to a minimum deal, and Lucas III to a minimum deal. Use part of the big TE to acquire Kelvin Cato use the last part of the big TE to get Travis Diener. Baxter can be re-signed to 10 days after the Knicks cut him and be used as a reserve body whenever Yao or Cato went down. PG Francis/Diener/Lucas III SG Snyder/Spanoulis/Sura SF T-Mac/Ju Jones/Novak PF Battier/Ju Howard/Padgett/Hayes C Yao/Cato It would also give the Rockets probably the toughest supporting cast around Yao and T-Mac they could possibly get. It would UPGRADE the team and be easily done. A core of Francis Snyder T-Mac Battier Yao Diener Lucas III Spanoulis Jumaine Jones Chuck Hayes Novak going forward with more pieces to add in the future could finally get this team somewhere. The current direction of the team regardless of what all the optimists here think is AT BEST maybe a 5 seed and 2nd round exit. They cut some dead weight and add Francis and thus have a real starting 5, then have free roster spots to fill in with guys that could actually contribute something, and the team could be MUCH better than a 2nd round 5 seed.
Yeah well I wasn't a rookie until some people had the balls to say I was a previously banned member. Ever since then I have been getting rude remarks, people calling me out, attitude, and was sent to "rookie status." I asked the admin about this and got nothing but silence. I really don't care about complaints such as these now after I saw all someone has to do is say you are a previously banned member and it is apparently taken as fact and then you are "ignored" and then "now considered a joke."
Sometimes players just need the right situation to flourish. I'm sure he's no Diaw, but hell, he's a SG with size and a decent shot and a solid rotation guy, and we got him for the smaller TE, leaving the larger TE intact as well as the MLE. If he has outstanding warrants for his arrest somewhere, then I'll leave off, but this trade, truly, makes CD or Morey at least look like they've got some brain cells firing.
I think many members here are confused why some people are complaining. I am NOT complaining because of Snyder being picked up. And I believe he is better than Bogans. My complaint is the Rockets insistence that moves like this make us a championship team. You can set there and argue it all you want, but how can anyone seriuously listen to CD's comments and not be sickened. Yes it was a GOOD MOVE, the PROBLEM is what the move is viewed as by Rockets. It's almost too much to believe that so many fans can't see this. A good move but it is STILL LOWERED EXPECATATIONS and the "just wait and see the next moves" argument to me is totally moot and off subject because the Rockets are obviously NOT looking to seriously upgrade they are instead looking to keep surrou8nding Yao and T-Mac with the cheapest solution. Why someone pointing this out pisses off other fans is totally beyond me. You actually think fans of the better teams in the league think this way?
Actually, I guess I hadn't put you on ignore. 1. First of all, I wouldn't put you on ignore because I don't like that you say the Rockets aren't serious about winning a title. I would do it because you make statements like that for no reason whatsoever. You had no case in this thread. "Trading absolutely nothing for a young and talented player who may very well become a solid contributor to this team just proves that the Rockets aren't serious about contending for a championship!" That's not a very good point and that's basically the point you made. What would you have them do with that 1.6 million dollar TE? Trade it for Steve Francis? 2. I would be ignoring you because you don't address good questions that are asked of you. You don't try to form any sort of argument to stand your ground, you just whine and cry for the sake of whining and crying. 3. The fact that at least five people have put you on ignore really SHOULD tell you something about the quality of your posts/complaints. That it doesn't is just one more reason you're worth of the ignore list. I've been on this forum for years and never once seen anybody state they were going to put me on ignore. People around here don't put people on ignore just for having opinions that differ from theirs. They put people on ignore for making worthless posts that aren't worth reading/responding/considering. We actually love well thought out arguments around here. 4. I would be putting you on ignore because you're the type of poster who would rather address the fact I had placed you on ignore than address the questions Rserina was thoughtful enough to ask you. He actually seems to take you seriously enough to want to understand the reasoning behind your complaints and what you would do instead were you in CD's place. You should do the courteous thing and respond to his questions. You won't though because you don't have answers - just complaints. That's just one more reason you're a prime candidate for the ignore list. Also, so you'll know, a hyprocrite is a person who condemns a certain behavior but engages in that same behavior. The behavior I'm condemning here is that you complain without making any real case for your complaint- when posters inquire as to your reasoning you basically seem to just repeat what you said before if you respond at all. I actually do give the reasons that I agree or disagree with a move. Further, when other posters are interested enough in my views to question them, I respond - and (except in the instances in which time/life do not allow) I respond to the best of my abilities. You don't seem to be interested in any sort of discussion. You seem to only want a place to vent your frustrations - may I suggest a diary?
