I've always liked John Wallace. He may fit in well if they keep the same tempo. ------------------ humble, but hungry.
Steal for the Pistons. John Wallace was disliked by everyone and was criticized heavily for a total lack of work ethic. He never played for Detroit. Buechler was overpaid to keep a promise made (forced by Grant Hill when he was there) to him. He is a very up and down player with only one skill, shooting and he's reluctant to do that. Cliffie only takes up like 1 million more in cap room (and the Pistons will have like 16 million) and can contribute for a couple seasons with his outside stroke and defense. I don't see Phoenix's motivation in this deal at all. ------------------
Wow. The Suns must really be hellbent on gutting their team. They've traded away their 1st and 3rd best players, and the way things are going I wouldn't be too surprised if they dealt Marion as well. Defensively, the current Suns squad is just a notch above the Golden State Warriors. Robinson is a very underrated defender who could guard both 3's and 4's effectively. Wallace, on the other hand, is scrub. He's bounced around the league for a few years and has never made any kind of impact for any team [except for maybe his 1st season in Toronto]. Hopefully for the Suns these moves are part of a bigger plan for the offseason, because as it stands PHX is a 40 win club at best. ------------------
I agree... The team is a 40 win team now, and i think they have a bigger trade in the works or something. I have not heard anything yet, but this can't be the team to make a playoff run in the West. ------------------ "Basketball is truth, and J-Dub is a lie..." I know basketball and most GM's don't...sometimes the best rooster move is no move at all. What makes your team successful is truly knowing when it's time to make a change and who is the player to help you do it.
what exactly is phoenix getting out of this deal? 2 scrubs for a star? ------------------ president of the sleepy floyd to hall of fame club. http://www.it-is-truth.org http://members.fortunecity.com/omar369
They do have a nice young duo in Marion and Marbury, but why wouldn't they give up Robinson for another young stud instead of trash like Wallace and Buechler? ------------------ "I look kind of dumpy. Look at my butt. And what kind of shoes do they have me wearing? At least they got the chinstrap beard right." -Kevin Garnett on the KG bobblehead dolls during KG bobblehead doll night at the Target Center
Others mention cap space in 03 but I think they like Wallace. They also add Majerle to please the fans, I like the deal for Detroit. The east should be more intresting with Atlanta, Wiz?, and Nets improving.
NOT that I'm a big fan of his, but imagine you're Marbury? "Ok, great, back on a team with talent! All right! Can't wait to get started! There's me and Marion and Clifford and...what's that? John %@$!%@!%@ing Wallace!?!?! Jud @!#@!%$#^$#^$!%@^$#!^$#!%@!ing Buchler!?!?!!? What, is it me, or something!?!? Did I run over God's dog in another @@$!%$@!%^!ing life?!!? What's that you're hearing? Marion for Greg %$!^$@!^ing Ostertag and DeShaun Stephenson!?!?!? Good, God! It's like that Bill %$@!#^!^ing Murray movie! P.S. No, the Marion trade has no basis in reality, just got carried away. ------------------
If you check out the online Phoenix press then the reason for the Kidd and Robinson trades become VERY clear cut... Simply...the public their was not going to support a wife hitter (Kidd) or a pot smoking, DUI fool like Robinson...so they got rid of them both. You CANNOT get equal trade value once a guy's reputation is tarnished... ------------------ [This message has been edited by ScreamingRocketJet (edited June 29, 2001).]
