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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. HP3

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    Do you even data? Have you ever in your life actually looked at the numbers for immigration? My dude, whats the point of talking if you ONLY believe whatever other conservatives tell you, can you not at least even attempt to listen to the facts I can bring you on this topic?
     
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  2. Nook

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    I agree with you that Biden (we can blame Mayorkas but Biden was the President) was not proactive enough until very late into his Presidency and that turned off voters, in both parties really. That does allow for political headlines and that is part of the game - but so is pointing out that most of the people being deported are not monsters.... most are women and children and hardworking people.
     
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  3. HP3

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    So many violent criminals, such propaganda that people who already want to believe it, just eat up.
     
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  4. droxford

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    I'm favor of deportation of all illegal aliens, even the non-violent ones.

    Each peaceful, hard-working illegal alien that we deport will free up an American job for a US citizen.
     
  5. HP3

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    I know, its not true, you are wrong, the data is not and has not been on your side. you just have to be willing to listen.
     
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  6. droxford

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    ??? What's "not true" ?
    What data "isn't on my side" ?
     
  7. HP3

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    Mass deportations are not going to free up jobs, its also not going to make the economy better, There is data out there that highlights my exact point.
     
  8. droxford

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    Every hard working illegal alien that is doing sheetrock work, welding, carpentry, construction, plumbing, lawn maintenance, roofing... those are all jobs. And it's not fair practice for companies like Molly Maid to compete against illegal alien labor. To say that those jobs won't be freed up is nonsense, and I don't understand why that isn't evident and common sense to you.

    I didn't say anything about it making the economy better, did I? Please stop being a stereotypical liberal and stop hearing things that aren't said. If you don't want to be labeled as a libtard, stop acting like one.
     
  9. HP3

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    All jobs that no one want, will not be filled up, and businesses are not going to up their wages for. This is just pure idealism from you and whats crazy is that its idealism based on cruelty and impracticality.

    I dont care if you call me a libtard dude, immigrants by and large do not take away jobs people want.
     
  10. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Get rid of welfare and people will want those jobs.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    This is just stupid - RAISE the minimum wage to $25 where it should be and people will want them. But will the American consumer want to pay more for everything?

    We have gotten stuck trying to compete with China, and they have very low wages, we should not do that, just compete as Americans.....and give a fair working wage.

    Get rid of GIG/TIP culture - pay for work.

    DD
     
  12. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Eliminate the minimum wage as well. The minimum wage is always zero, because if you are not worth the cost, you don't get the job. If we don't pay people to do nothing, they will want to work to get things like food and shelter.
    There is a global labor market (just like there are global markets for goods, land, commodities, etc.). The minimum wage is just a tariff on American labor.
    We should definitely get rid of tipping culture. Gig culture is just independent contracting.
     
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    where I live $20/hour is the de facto minimum wage for unskilled entry-level jobs, e.g., at McDonalds. That's just market forces at work.
     
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    @Os Trigonum
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    They got Carlos...

     
  17. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I don't think that girl ever really loved him. It was just about the money for her. If only there could have been some way he could have known that.
     
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  18. droxford

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    THIS is just stupid! Do you honestly think there aren't any American-owned roofing companies? That no US Citizens are interested in being an electrician? A welder? A mechanic? Do you think that, when the demand for those services exists, nobody will do the job?!? America's going to fall apart because nobody here wants to work construction ?!
     
  19. Nook

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    Deporting 20,000,000 people will have MASSIVE effects on the economy in the USA. It will also have a profound impact on the citizen growth rate in the USA.
     
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