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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Dec 26, 2021.

  1. Bandwagoner

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    I think whatever pink stuff was under the vinyl roof ran down the c pillar and along the trim part.

    Still, looks pretty straight. Just abandoned and sun damaged. I'd buy it.
     
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    Never in history of medicine has there been a lack of acceptance of 2nd and 3rd opinions.

    Also never in the history mankind have more brains been washed than hands.
     
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    It isn't new information, DD, but I'm not going to bust your chops for posting what you heard. Two good friends of ours, a married couple, who both got Covid-19 (the Delta variant) after being vaccinated with the Pfizer version, ended up in a UT study. Haven't a clue if that's at all related to what you're talking about. They told us that we could participate, as apparently they were still taking participants at the time, but we said, "Thanks, but no thanks." I absolutely hate needles.

    That was several weeks ago. They're in their 60's and one of them, who's diabetic, got pneumonia and came very close to going to the hospital. In fact, he did later. The bout with Covid had an impact on the circulation in his lower legs. He had to have surgery to improve the circulation because his toes were beginning to turn black. It was successful, but he's using a cane now. He told us that both the surgeon and his doctor blamed the circulatory problem on Covid. He had had issues with it before, but it suddenly got much worse after he caught it. Covid-19 is nothing to joke about.
     
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    Opinions are like assholes - it’s the informed opinions that actually matter. Antivaxxers don’t meet that informed threshold.
     
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    People have been dying to self inflicted stupidity since the dawn of time. This is nothing new.

    What we do know is those who have been infected or vaccinated have an extremely low chance of dying.

    That said, those who are dying are the ones who are immunocompromised or just plain moderate to severe obese. I would suggest its the ones who can control their unhealthy lifestyle are the stupid ones.
     
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    I try to keep up via Medcram who does updates of studies done and I do remember back in the fall that there were studies showing good immune responses for those who caught Covid during the first wave. However those studies are now becoming a bit dated so there are new ones now being referenced and reported on that are now showing sharp waning that has happened during the Delta and now Omicron surge with the boosted being much more well protected.

    So I’d update your resources. I think that Israel study was posted in October and contained data from the Summer/early fall before Delta started really raging.

    ….

    But to be fair… antibody level detection apparently is kind of over simplifying immune responses. My understanding is that antibodies after any virus only last a few months. However that doesn’t mean that your body still doesn’t have memory response to create antibodies if your body detects that virus trying attach to your cells. So I think there’s a more complicated explanation about our immune system and Covid, but the data should be clear that getting boosted is still smart, and relying on a mild Covid case you got in the winter of 2020/21 is pretty stupid… especially since we know that you can get the flu every year and vaccines are important because of the new yearly mutations.

    Some things about our immune system are highly complicated but some things are just common sense. Getting a booster at this point sure does look like one of them.
     
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    "Massive study" that has not been peer-reviewed, and even states it should not be used to guide clinical practice.
     
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    Agreed, I have heard rubbing raw pork on your penis will provide you immunity from COVID.
     
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    it's got to be ground though, for better surface to volume ratio
     
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    The study says its data is from the time period in which Delta was the dominant variant in Israel.

    In any case though, like you said I also suspect it's more complicated than just antibody count. It is good to know that people who had SARS-COV1 so long ago are still immune to it and still have antibodies, but what does that mean for COV2? I have no idea.

    But again, I am talking out of my ass when it comes to this stuff. Derek Thompson of The Atlantic has been my go-to guy for most updates, as he seems to be the most measured in his reporting and the least click-baity.

    I will say that I generally have little trust in our institutions to accurately cover and assess and report on matters such as this, so I am hesitant to jump behind the latest study from anyone. I have heard from doctors I know and trust that the booster isn't really needed for people outside of high risk groups... but at the same time those people themselves got boosters because why not.

    So, I don't know. I just go back to my original point that I am a little confused about it all and am hesitant to trust the institutions that are reliant upon building trust. Maybe I watched too much Stone Cold as a child.
     
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    But your brother is still alive due to his stupidity.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Yep, for now....but he is making choices that could kill him or other members of our family.....for being an idiot.

    DD
     
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    I think I'm participating in this study. I'm giving blood every few months to UT to track my antibodies, vaccinations, and sickness. All I know is after my booster, my antibodies are off the charts (literally above range for the antibody test) versus around 4 months after my second shot where it was at a healthy level. It's pretty cool because I get to see my data about 24 hours after giving blood and receiving my Bill Gates tracking chip. I'm still waiting for my Obama phone.
     
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    should you kill him first in self-defense? discuss.
     
  18. coachbadlee

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    But for now he is healthy and murder-free and he will stay that way.
     
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  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    You don't know that at all. You hope that, as do I, when the simple solution is to get vaccinated.

    DD
     

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