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Maybe it’s Harden who’s washed?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ashleyem, Jan 10, 2021.

  1. jordnnnn

    jordnnnn Member

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    That specific claim is dumb, really dumb actually, but the idea behind it isn’t.

    Time of possession of Harden and his 2nd most ball dominant teammate

    17/18
    Harden : 8.8 minutes
    Paul : 6.8 minutes

    18/19
    Harden : 9.3 minutes
    Paul : 6.6 minutes

    19/20
    Harden : 8.6 minutes
    Westbrook : 5.8 minutes

    20/21
    Harden : 7.6 minutes
    Wall : 7.0 minutes

    games where both played
    Harden : 6.84 minutes
    Wall : 6.44 minutes

    This year more than ever before our 2nd ball dominant guard is possessing the ball just as much as James. There was a pronounced gap the last few years. Clearly a decision has been made to rely on Harden less. Short term it hasn’t worked out that great for us. Long term it could be the smart play.
     
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  2. riko

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    Then why keep harden around if we are not going to maximise him? If we are thinking long term then trade him for someone younger.This strategy is pointless
     
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  3. T for 3

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    Agree on all counts.

    Where we may disagree is a different subject.

    There has been an effort to take the ball out of James’ hands, yes. Clearly, in an effort to reduce wear on James for the long term as you accurately pointed out.

    But I also see a lack of aggressiveness from James. You can tell me if any of the advanced numbers back it up or not, but it doesn’t seem like he’s attacking as much (ISO or otherwise) with his touches.

    His line was OK last night, but most of it came when the game was already a laugher.

    My point is, I am not so quick to put all the blame on the Silas system for such a drastic change. Silas may want Harden to change, but this much, I’m skeptical.
     
  4. ParaSolid

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    They are intentionally bringing his usage down. Less usage, less output. Better for the team? Maybe?
     
  5. T for 3

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    They are trying to trade him. No matter how many sound bites and tweets come out with Harden giving those canned PR responses, he still wants out and they are still trying to move him. But they aren’t gonna do it for peanuts, and they shouldn’t.
     
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    The Whoppers in here...smh
     
  7. Imanimal

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    Hearing renewed interest in Herro....just need multiple teams to get us a pick better than 2027 first.
     
  8. jayfree

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    Saying, if your leading contributor on the team is not interested in staying then you might as well rebuild because the team is going nowhere anyway
     
  9. kingkingston

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    lol thanks for the laugh
     
  10. hakeemthagreat

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    Silas isn't telling him to pass to Eric Gordon for a end of the quarter shot. He's not telling him to never drive and be as non aggressive as possible. Harden is pouting like he did with CP3 here
     
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  11. riko

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    I guess harden having career low usage on the ball is harden to.
     
  12. elmotsang

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    Harden should play iso more. He should get at least 30 each game. Wall is not Cp3. Power forward and small forward are weak side
     
  13. Loneyroy7

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    Rockets should lower their asking price and trade washed Harden.
     
  14. jerryclark

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    Yup trade Harden and picks for Cj mcColon
     
  15. Elvin Hayes

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    Harden is tanking until he gets what he wants.
     
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    His usage is low because he's not being aggressive. Is Silas making him not attempt shots?
     
  17. KingCheetah

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    Could we get Dwert Howard?
     
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  18. Clutch City1993

    Clutch City1993 Bury Me In The H
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    Maybe its some of the fans who are washed.

    Let's trade them.
     
  19. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    So...are you a girl? Or are you a guy with the name Ashley? Or is your name Ash Leyem?

    asking for a friend
     
  20. KingCheetah

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    Nah, they haven't bathed in years.
     

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