Looking at our 3rd string PG, I'd say that Hollis Price might not have been such a bad pick. He was the big 12 player of the year in a league that featured TJ Ford and Kirk Hinrich. How crazy is it to think he could more valuable than Mike Wilkes?
Frankly, it does not compute. This thread started off with a moronic claim about CD yet if EG was known to be heading towards disaster, or at least real trouble, why wouldn't the owner have stepped in and seen to it that the problem was dealt with. If the owner was kept from knowing UNLIKELY, HIGHLY UNLIKELY then heads would (or will) certainly roll!
CD is respected throughout the league as one of the best, so this is a terriably immature statement to make about a man who has been a proven winner overall in his area for probably, what, over half your life on earth to this point? WHo has a crystal ball on people making it in this league? How about props for Cattino then? Would you know a moron if you saw one? Caution, items in mirror are closer then they look.
Jonathan Feigen was asked about who came up with deals, approved them, etc. on a radio call in show during last season. He said that usually Rudy or someone on the personnel staff would come up with an idea or CD would be called with an offer from another team. It would be discussed among the entire staff. If there was a concensus to try and make a deal, they would go to Les with it (particularly if the deal was fairly significant) and get final approval. In the case of the draft, EVERYONE on the staff was involved in setting up draft boards, suggesting workouts, etc. His assertion was that the ULTIMATE say so came down really to two people: Les and Rudy. CD's primary job was to man the phone and work out deals/contracts once a decision had been made. So, if you want to be pissed over Nachbar, the whole staff deserves the blame. I'm not defending CD. I'm saying that if you want to FIX the problem (instead of just whining and complaining), you should actually look at who is making the decisions.
Uh... yea. Why would you want that Kareem Rush guy on your team? Worthless. Especially as a #28 or #29 pick. Thank GOD we have Boki.
The Boki Draft from Boki's pick thru the end (not a lot of greatness, eh? Boozer the best @#35?): 15. *Houston (Tor) Bostjan Nachbar 6-9 220 SF (Slovenia) 1980 16. Philadalphia Jiri Welsch 6-7 205 PG/SG (Czech Republic) 1980 17. Washington (NO) Juan Dixon 6-3 165 SG Maryland Sr. 18. Orlando Curtis Borchardt 7-0 238 C Stanford Jr. *pick traded to Utah 19. Utah Ryan Humphrey 6-7 223 SF/PF Notre Dame Sr. *pick traded to Orlando 20. *Toronto (via Sea, NY) Kareem Rush 6-6 214 SG Missouri Jr. *pick traded to LA Lakers 21. Portland Qyntel Woods 6-9 230 SG/SF Northeast CC So. 22. *Phoenix (Bos) Casey Jacobsen 6-6 215 SG Stanford Jr. 23. Detroit Tayshaun Prince 6-9 215 SF Kentucky Sr. 24. New Jersey Nenad Krstic 6-11 PF/C Partizan (Yugoslavia) 1983 25. *Denver (Dal) Frank Williams 6-3 205 PG Illinois Jr. *pick traded to New York 26. San Antonio John Salmons 6-7 200 PG/SF Miami Sr. *pick traded to Philadelphia 27. LA Lakers Chris Jefferies 6-8 220 SF Fresno St. Jr. *pick traded to Toronto 28. Sacramento Dan Dickau 6-0 170 PG Gonzaga Sr. *pick traded to Atlanta 29. None (Minny) 30. Golden State Steve Logan 6-0 196 PG Cincinnati Sr. 31. Chicago Roger Mason 6-5 201 PG/SG Virginia Jr. 32. Memphis Robert Archibald 6-11 250 PF/C Illinois Sr. 33. Denver Vincent Yarbrough 6-7 202 SF Tennessee Sr. 34. Milwaukee (Hou) Dan Gadzuric 6-11 245 C UCLA Sr. 35. Cleveland Carlos Boozer 6-9 258 PF Duke Jr. 36. New York Milos Vujanic 6-3 PG Partizan (Yugoslavia) 1980 37. Atlanta David Andersen 6-10 PF (Australia) 1980 38. Houston (Miami) Tito Maddox 6-4 190 PG Jr. 39. Washington (Pho v. Den) Rod Grizzard 6-8 205 SG/SF Alabama Jr. 40. Washington Juan Carlos Navarro 6-4 PG/SG (Spain) 1980 41. LA Clippers Mario Kasun 7-1 C (Croatia) Gonzaga *pick traded to Orlando 42. Milwaukee Ronald Murray 6-4 190 PG/SG Shaw Sr. 43. Portland (Tor via Chi) Jason Jennings 7-0 250 C Arkansas St. Sr. 44. Chicago (Ind) Lonny Baxter 6-8 264 PF Maryland Sr. 45. Philadalphia Sam Clancy 6-7½ 240 PF Southern Cal Sr. 46. Memphis (Orl) Matt Barnes 6-7 230 SF UCLA Sr. *pick traded to Cleveland 47. Utah Jamal Sampson 7-0 240 PF/C California Fr. *pick traded to Milwaukee 48. Milwaukee (NO) Chris Owens 6-8 245 SF/PF Texas Sr. *pick traded to Memphis 49. Seattle Peter Fehse 6-11 PF/C SV Halle (Germany) 1983 50. Boston Darius Songaila 6-10 240 PF Wake Forest Sr. 51. Portland Federico Kammerichs 6-8 225 SF Argentina (1980) 52. Minnesota Marcus Taylor 6-3 195 PG Michigan St. So. 53. Miami Rasual Butler 6-8 198 SF LaSalle Sr. 54. New Jersey Tamar Slay 6-9 210 SG Marshall Sr. 55. Dallas Mladen Sekularac 6-8 SG Zeleznik (Yugoslavia) 1981 56. San Antonio Luis Scola 6-9 230 PF (Argentina) 1980 57. San Antonio (LAL) Randy Holcomb 6-9 219 SF San DIego St. Sr. *pick traded to Philadelphia 58. Sacramento Corsley Edwards 6-9 285 PF/C Central Connecticut St.
Rush is a shooter with no D. Did you see how many defensive assignments he messed up? If he were playing for JVG, he'd be sitting at the end of the bench. I think this thread is reason #1,096 why the Admins are complete morons for allowing people to start a "Why didn't we get this guy" thread every time a player plays well against us.
So CD only sets up the "deal". To FIND the deal it was Rudy or someone on the personnel staff? See, that is what I am talking about. If this falls on JVG then this falls on him too. But this summer there will be GOOD Players available. This team has to be PROACTIVE and try to make moves. I dont know JVG's track record of trying to go all out to get players but if this team wants to get to the next level they are going to have to be PROACTIVE this summer and stir up the trade waters. CD shouldn't be just TAKING calls....he should be MAKING them. That's all I am saying.
you cant call cs a moron. i think it has alot to do with rudy t. do yall know how many ppla we past up on da draft. we could of had a bad ass team that got somewhere. do any of all remember 3 draft picks? where the hell is dickerson, drew, tirksan? rocekts will win next 2 gamesss. show some suppot
I don't like bringing up drafts for many reasons. First of all you can't expect how these players are going to turn out on and off the court. You take picks on what you need for your team or their scouting reports. Sometimes you get lucky and other times you end up with a bust. Remember we picked mobley in the second round.
