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Turkish "We didn't massacre Armenians! Really!" Billboards Around Town

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ottomaton, May 7, 2015.

  1. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Contributing Member
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    Anybody see these around town? in case you aren't sure, the graphic is a Turkish-flag-colored butterfly facing an Armenian-flag-colored butterfly?

    I know one on 45 South (I think) right past the Pierce elevated, and one on 59 South where it splits from 288.

    To quote the Prince of Denmark, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

    Either let it die, Turkey and never speak of it again, or admit what a tragedy was, take on a little guilt, and express sympathy for the victims.

    This current Sergant Schultz, "I see nothing! NOTHING!" routine just makes you look worse.

    Hell, even if you are absolutely free of guilt for intentional genocide, this constant obsession with defending yourself at the expense of sympathy for the dead just makes you look worse. If it was simple incompetence, tell the world how sorry you were for incompetence during a difficult time in history, apologize, and let it fade.

    Everything Turkey has ever done with regards to this issue makes me believe the Armenian (and generally internationally accepted) version of events more.

    And while we're at it, what's with people trying to influence international opinion via roadside billboards? A couple of years ago there were dueling Israeli and Palestinian billboards all over town. There was aslo a "Japan needs to apologize to Korean women for rape durring WWII" billboard at Shephard and I-10 for a while. I don't remember seeing billboards for anything but selling products when I was a child.
     
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    There is a group of turks in Houston that present themselves as followers of Gulen and his movement.

    Many seem well intentioned, but they obviously bring over their own Turkey-centric agenda and biases.

    At least a billboard is quite possibly the tamest thing a group of Muslims have done in the name of outrage.
     
  3. Cohete Rojo

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    Don't worry, bro. Cohete been on top of it for some time: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9713020&postcount=34

    Also, the same area there is a 'ask about islam' billboard, and near Richmond and Fountainview there is a 'don't send money to Palestinian terrorists' billboard.

    Also, driving around rural Kansas I've seen plenty of 'abortion is murder' billboards.

    To date, no one has been shot.
     
  4. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    George Tiller disagrees.
     
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    All billboards should be outlawed.
     
  6. Dairy Ashford

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    Inverse to the east coast, you see more and more of those the further north you get; and they're mostly hand-painted.
     
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    Slightly on topic, I thought the op's username was Ottoman for at least a few years before I took time to read it and realized what it actually is.
     
  8. JuanValdez

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    The official Turkish version seems to be a very nuanced argument that, Yes many Armenians died in that time, but it was a complicated time in Turkish history with a lot of upheaval that caused suffering for many groups of people and there wasn't any concerted effort to persecute anyone in particular. That kind of nuance doesn't translate well to a billboard.
     
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  9. AroundTheWorld

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    It's not nuance, it's a lie. It's as if Germans were to make the same excuse about the Nazi times.
     
  10. Invisible Fan

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    Your explanation of their version sounds like Iraq War2 and the terrible aftermath of diaspora and "collateral damage".

    Even that vast understatement is still a terrible thing to be acknowledged.
     
  11. JuanValdez

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    My point is that you can't fit that on a billboard.
     
  12. Faust

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    the older im getting the more things im learning can't be put on billboards, bumper stickers, t shirts. too much nuance like you said. my family hates the federal reserve and socialist countries like germany and france and the epa. but now i know better about those things and i avoid people who can't think about things more in depth without blowing their lid at you for not agreeing with there simple minds.
     

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