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Jeremy Lin as a Pekin Duck

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by mig0s, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    Dude was too soft for China. Where they play really really really really really hard

     
  2. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    You are right, Lin is not good at basketball and way past his good years. If someone is willing to join hundreds of sports sites and team sites to praise him for doing nothing, then you know it's completely sexual.
    @Jontro
     
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  3. CometsWin

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    It sure is when comparing far different sample sizes and different styles of play. There goes that Ivy League education again with the false equivalencies.
     
  4. yoeddy

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    Lmao! Ok, let's look at the same sample size: if you look at Fredrette's best single season in the CBA (same sample size) compared to Lin's single season in the CBA, Lin's overall shooting percentage is better. As far as other factors, like different systems, different styles of play, different team dynamics, etc...if you can speak to those and give legit reasons as to why Fredette would have worse FG % but still be considered a better shooter, I would love to hear it.
     
  5. tinman

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    It’s going to be Lin as a LA Spark thread
    And LOFs will be mad when Lisa Leslie gets more playing time then their androgynous hero
     
  6. jordnnnn

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    FG% does not accurately assess efficiency. True shooting % does.

    True shooting % in CBA

    The Jimmer : 61.79% Overall
    Year 1 : 62.25%
    Year 2 : 60.15%
    Year 3 : 63.34%

    Lin : 61.24%

    Purely statistically speaking, Jimmer was a slightly more efficient scorer.
     
  7. tinman

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    We're discussing CBA scrubs. This is what happens when LOFs stick around Clutchfans.
    The thing is Jimmer at least doesn't jump 1 or 2 teams a year.

    There's non stop drama queen, jesus pandering, race card playing, and excuse making tweets
     
  8. jordnnnn

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    Seriously?

    Looks like Jimmer shot about 12 3s per game while Lin took 4.

    Anyone with a simple understanding of math would understand Lin SHOULD have a higher simple FG%. He shoots more 2s and likely much more layups. But that’s not what efficiency is in basketball. 3 point shots are worth 50% more points.

    Another tell tale sign of who is the best shooter is really just FT%
    Jimmer is 10% better from the line.

    There’s things you can realistically claim Lin is better than Jimmer at. Being a better shooter is not one of them.
     
  9. tinman

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    dude.
    audience is everything.

    Let's say you are talking about great steakhouses and someone disagreed with your choice.
    Then you find out this person is a Vegan.
     
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  11. yoeddy

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    Thank you for a reasonable and rational comparison. Agree that True Shooting % is a valid stat to compare. The question to add here is what is the +/- regarding the accuracy of this stat, and whether the .55% difference is significant enough to actually say Jimmer was really a better shooter.
     
  12. yoeddy

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    I did say in my first post with the stats that Jimmer was clearly the better 3pt shooter. However, if you just look at their 2pt FG %, Lin was better there...so it's not just his overall FG%.

    And ok...as previously acknowledged, I'm in agreement that TS% is the better measure. Is their TS% different enough to to conclude Jimmer is clearly better?
     
  13. yoeddy

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    FYI - this is what I made for dinner this past Sunday night:

    119487651_10160511101153986_3295852160601151171_o.jpg

    #definitelynotvegan
     
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  14. tinman

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    Another year of crying after a year of crying for attention

    @Zboy

    The WNBA awaits
     
  15. jordnnnn

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    Better True shooting does not equal better shooter. It means more efficient scorer.

    A guy can have a better true shooting if he dominates the paint and gets to the line and hits a decent rate of free throws. Doesn’t mean he’s a better shooter. Giannis has an excellent true shooting percentage. He’s a terrible shooter. Poor free throw, poor 3 point, but still supremely efficient.

    Lin is not a shooter. He’s a slasher, driver, scorer. It makes complete sense why his 2 point percentage is better. Without looking I would imagine he has WAAAY more points in the paint compared to Jimmer. He bolsters his field goal percentage with easier to make buckets.

    Jimmer is a shooter. Without looking I would imagine most his points are jump shots. Just look at the 3 point and free throw percentage. Clearly superior.

    Jimmer is without question a better shooter.

    But they would appear to be pretty equally efficient at scoring. Different styles. Nearly the same efficiency. One is a shooter. One is a slasher.
     
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    damn, that's just stupid.

    that's par for the course for the fool who conveniently scapegoats JLin, while absolving the stupidity of Morey who
    • paid way above market price to sign JLin, when the Rox already had the proven Dragic, and
    • later paid the LaL a #1 and a #2 to pick up Lin's contract.

    don't think JLin had ever tried to proselytize anyone

    race was the reason why Lin, the California's BB player of the year, was not offered any college scholarship.

    Mike Montgomery, the then-coach of California, later admitted as much. JLin and his family / hi school coach, had expected that
    either California or Stanford, both in close proximity of Lin's home town of Palo Alto, would offer him one. They didn't.
    Neither did other Calif Divsion one schools, UCLA, USC, Pepperdine, LB State, SJ State, SD State, Fullerton State, St Mary's​
     
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    He's whining about fouls in the China league and then he quits Beijing after saying it was his Dream.

    This guy sucks I don't care that he's from California. So is Harden.
     
  18. tinman

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    Dude this is guy is a LOF. That's like worse than a zombie @Reeko
     
  19. yoeddy

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    Very reasonable analysis. So going back to the original reason why someone brought up Jimmer...the fact that few NBA GMs showed interest in Jimmer after his stint in the CBA really is no indication regarding whether NBA GMs would or would not have interest in Lin based on their relative shooting performances in the CBA, right? They are very different players...that is the general point I was trying to make.
     
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  20. heypartner

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    Lin was surely underrecruited out of HS. But let's put this in perspective.

    Lin won the Northern Section Division II Player of the Year. There are 10 Sections and 4 Divisions in each section, so something like 40 Players of the Year awards in the CIF.

    You make it sound like he was California Mr Basketball in 2006. He wasn't: Chase Budinger was. :D

    [​IMG]

    I'd be curious to see how many Northern Section Division II POTY did not get a scholarship to Stanford or UCLA.
     
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