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2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. B@ffled

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    It's a shame when people call you a liar and have nothing to back it up. The man says he's never voted republican. I believe him. Why lie about it? I'm pretty sure he could care less how he's thought of on the D&D as most of us can say the same. So why lie? Take him for his word.
     
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  3. jiggyfly

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    So your dignity can bought with pandering?

    What about your two young daughters?
     
  4. jiggyfly

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    If he and you cared less, he and you would not constantly try and justify your positions.

    Why does this strike a nerve with you?
     
  5. leroy

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    Being a libertarian is like being a vegan. They have this need to constantly tell people as if it's some badge of honor that needs to be advertised.
     
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  6. B@ffled

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    Hey @ipaman You're not the only Libertarian who finds themselves without a candidate. It seems to be a theme in the 'youtube sphere'. The far left's identity politics and socialistic views have crept into the moderates' platform because the moderates will do anything to pander to the far left....in my opinion. But Biden is the center and four years ago would have been a candidate that would probably meet your political expectations. No?

    Playing Devil's Advocate: If you HAD to vote. Trump or Biden?

    Such shiddy options.... again, my opinion.
     
  7. jiggyfly

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    So true.
     
  8. B@ffled

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    I guess I'm trying to be subtle about pointing out that he's being attacked for not agreeing with the majority on the board. It's called the D&D, which implies to me that you can have 'safe' discussions without the fallback posture of attacking when you disagree.

    If he and I cared less, you'd have nobody to argue or discuss with. Then all you're left with is people who agree with your positions. And if that's what your end game goal is, then you might as well call it a 'Hangout'. No?
     
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  9. jiggyfly

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    Ipaman wants Biden to pander to the far left.

    He is supposed to be a Bernie guy, don't know how this jibes with being a Libertarian.
     
  10. jiggyfly

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    That's not why he is being attacked, if that's what you want to call it.

    What many have issue with is his insistence on saying he has to be pandered too.

    The only way to get his vote was beg him for his vote and adopt the issues of Bernie, how does that jibe with libertarianism?
     
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    Maybe you should read the forum description if you havent yet.
     
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  12. B@ffled

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    Don't need to. Somebody's signature sums it up well enough (....not for the lighthearted...) Don't get me wrong: I know what I'm in for. But I would think that you'd agree that you'd prefer to have someone to argue/debate/discuss with, that has an opposing point of view, than banter with someone who agrees with you. No? That's what makes it interesting to me.
     
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    One of the 'Bernie or nothing at all' guys? Give him some time. The announcement is only a week old.
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    ipaman has four years of history defending trump and criticizing any Democrat...

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/criticizing-is-not-supporting.286019/#post-11390828

    Well, it looks like ipaman got what he wanted... trump has met his potential for ruining our system...
     
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    He has been doing this since Super Tuesday.

    And it seems has been advocating for Trump looking at his history.

    That's why his and others motivations are questioned.

    Do you now understand?
     
  16. B@ffled

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    That thread appears to me that something 'revolutionary' is being called for. I liked Ross Perot too.

    I think Trump being president has highlighted how messed up the system is. It was ruined when he got there. The two party system is trash. I'd love to see a 'no party' system.
     
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    what's the point of debate and discussion if you don't believe what others say? why are you here?
     
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    Biden is a clown candidate. Trump couldn't beat many people but i think biden is someone he can beat.
     
  19. ipaman

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    not pandering... progress. also zero tolerance for creepy, preying, types. that's why to have a chance for my vote he needs a homerun vp. young, minority, woman, progressive, etc... something to look forward too as the dementia sets in further.
     
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    If I had too... vote for Biden's VP. That's how I would convince myself that what I did was good.
     

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