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Breaking: same-sex marriage now legal in all 50 states.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Northside Storm, Jun 26, 2015.

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm wondering if Roberts' dissent has to do with ameliorating Scalia. After voting against Scalia on two major decisions this session he knew that the same sex marriage would be upheld since Kennedy was for it so he voted against it to make peace with Scalia.
     
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    Racist AND a bigot?

    Are there any groups you don't hate?
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    Deleted sorry for the over size gif
     
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    He was for it before he was against it.
     
  5. Major

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    If that were the case, Roberts would be a terrible judge. There's no reason you should be voting for things - and writing long legal dissents - to maintain a friendship with another judge. Besides which, don't Ginsberg and Scalia hang out all the time outside of the court? I'm pretty sure none of these people take anything personally.
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

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    The Supreme Court is not the Pope nor the board of directors for the Southern Baptist Convention. It's not trying to tell churches what to do.

    The Christian faith isn't being threatened at all by this ruling unless you somehow think a joint tax return is an exclusive providence of God....
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm not an expert on this but my understanding from reading other court watchers and history of the USSC is that there is a lot of trading and dealing going on behind the scenes. While Scalia probably isn't hurt personally it gives more force to his dissent if it is a 5-4 decision versus a 6-3.
     
  8. Major

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    I could see there being trading and dealing in terms of things like who gets to lead on writing various opinions and things like that, but I'd really hope that no judge is voting differently than what they believe for horse-trading purposes. A 6-3 decision has more moral force than a 5-4 one, and if a judge votes against something they support (or vice-versa), they are doing the country a huge disservice.
     
  9. tallanvor

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    no it hasn't. Single people are discriminated against. So are polygamists,
     
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    This is going to be the gayest gay pride parade of all time.

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  11. SamFisher

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    They're people who are consciously and subconsciously motivated by personal likes and dislikes as much as anybody else.

    Look at ol fat nino's angry dissent. he doesn't like the gays much, so he's going to ridicule his colleagues for liking the gays. That's about as petty and personal as it gets.
     
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    No, they aren't, the same laws apply equally to all.
     
  13. dandorotik

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    Yes, my bet is that now, 85% of the country will turn gay. And the population will decline so that, by 3030, there will be no humans left.

    We're not really sure about that. We are sure of one thing, though: that you are the poster child for being a ****ing moron who needs to stay far, far away from any position where you procreate, teach students, or influence people.
     
  14. JuanValdez

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    Idk. It could just take the issue off the table entirely. I think the smart candidate would say, "The Supreme Court has spoken. It is the law of the land." I don't see a lot of political victories coming from continuing to fight it, and not much chance of victory either.

    Texas politicians never fail to embarrass me.

    That one is next up.

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    I don't think they should be compelled because of their freedom of religion. Probably, if that's their position, people in biracial relationships probably don't want to associate with them anyway. And, there's plenty of other churches that will accommodate.

    I didn't think it was only a conservative thing.
     
  15. cml750

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    It is just a matter of time. We have already seen lawsuits against photographer who refused to take pictures of a same sex marriage and a baker who refused to make a cake based on religious beliefs.
     
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    No, it's not. The bakery is not a church. The photographer's studio also isn't a church.

    You do not understand what you are talking about. Your side never did and it's why you've lost today.
     
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    And those cases will be dealt with in accordance with the law, just like a black couple can sue a photographer or baker for refusing services based on race.
     
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    So are dumbasses. Life is discriminatory that way.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm sure there will be cases, but they are unlikely to go anywhere because a church marriage ceremony is a religious ceremony....not the same as baking a cake or taking pictures. I would think those cases would be thrown out pretty quickly.
     
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    What's pathetic and incredibly stupid is that you think that homosexuals were magically created today with this ruling.

    They were always gay and even living together. This affects population growth by exactly 0%.
     

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