Edward Snowden may have just killed the Patriot Act

First of all being able to use cyber attacks on foreign governments rather than human intelligence, could save lives. By leaking that the United States is doing this, makes the job more difficult and could cost people their lives.

We know that Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups have attacked the U.S. before, and to leak information that shows how we gather our intel on the location of those terrorists is a threat.

To leak how the NSA helped the Dutch spy on Somalia which is also valuable to the USA could be potentially dangerous.

Snowden leaking information about the intel the US has on how Al-Qaeda plans to shoot down our drones isn't a helpful thing for any of us either.

Here's one article that talks about that stuff.

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/let-me-show-why-edward-snowden-traitor-not-patriot/

 

NSA should have stuck with just doing those things and no one would have had a problem with it including Snowden who remember was one of them. NSA couldn't resist and here we are.

 

Sorry, I am not convinced.

Guy put his life on the line to break this stuff. Trading secrets of the US's illegal activities to gain protection is fair game for me.

 

It's fine if you aren't convinced, but it's a strange way to look at it.

If less than 10% of the secrets he stole had anything to do with protecting the rights of American citizens and believing that 90% of the secrets he stole were merely to help him be safe with the 10% he really wanted seems a real stretch.

 

Yep I agree. That's why no matter what he did, the most important thing that Snowden did was to expose the illegal activities against American citizens by the NSA. Snowden deserves major props for doing that.

With the government crackdown on whistleblowers it will only encourage these kinds of things too. If whistleblowers weren't punished it could also help avoid things like this.

 

But knowing that the US might be engaging in cyberspace warfare seems different than exposing code, how they were doing it, the kinds of targets they had, or were interested in and those kinds of secrets being leaked seems to more damaging than just the fact the US was engaged in it.

 

God bless that Snowden.

 

hmmmm. im confused. i thought that republican peeps dont like this. are they going against the tide of their voters??

 

Republicans are divided. The neocon part of the republican party doesn't like this. The other part does. Rand Paul gave a 10 hr speech protesting the Patriot Act. Unfortunately Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell is a neocon. This certainly makes it much harder for it to get reauthorized however which is a good thing.

 

Obama Asks Congress To Renew 'Patriot Act' Snooping

Demopublican. No choices anymore.

 

This is the type of thing that makes me laugh when people on the right b*tch and moan about how liberal Obama is.

 

laugh?

or cry?

 

Didn't read the article, but very dissapointing if he did that.

Bernie Sanders please.

 

disgusting

The Patriot Act snooping should fave punishment not renewal.

 

One love, one life, one too many victims
Republicrat, Democran, one party system
Media goes in a frenzy
They're stripped of their credentials
Presidential candidates can't debate over this instrumental
Let 'em freestyle, winner takes all
When the music's dead, I'll have Ted Nugent's head hangin' on my wall
Kill one of ours, we'll kill one of yours
With some friendly fire
That's a funny term, like civil war

 

True if you're a one issue voter, and that sole issue is renewal of certain Patriot Act provisions, you are probably correct.

Otherwise, in reality, the gulf between the two parties has effectively never been greater (thanks in large part to the hard right turn by one...)

 

Grabbing more power for the government isn't a traditionally conservative characteristic. Basically everyone in power tries to get more power.