All-Time Draft Semifinal: RedNation vs. Fallenphoenix

Please break down your vote. You can use this scheme:
Frontcourt
Backcourt
Bench
Offense
Defense
Chemistry (how do players fit on the court)

Or just explain the main weaknesses / strengths that you think will determine the winner.

Voters: all participants and VBG and IzakDavid13 as outside judges. Anyone else welcome as well, as long as you explain your vote.

RedNation

pg: Isiah Thomas
sg: Joe Dumars
sf: Rick Barry
pf: Kevin Mchale
C: Hakeem Olajuwon

Bench:
G:Tiny Archibald
G: Dale Ellis
F: Carmelo Anthony
F:Chris Webber
C: Otis Thorpe

vs.

Fallenphoenix

PG: Fat Lever
SG: Ray Allen
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Moses Malone

Bench
PG: Mark Price
SG: Paul Westphal
SF: Rudy Tomjanovich
PF: Ben Wallace
C: Dikembe Mutombo

 

:grin: how come no one picked up Phil Jackson? He was a decent big man. Otis Thorpe over Phil?

 

hehe maybe...
but if you took Rik Smits, you'd get my bench vote no matter what. no bias. :grin:

 

ok, fallen wins in 4, no need to explain why

 

i'll vote later when i have a bit time. at first glance, can't separate these teams. they look about even at everything.

 

frontcourt
This is hard. Barry vs. Pierce, I'd take Barry, but it's fairly close. To me, Pierce prime is somewhere between 08-11, when he went from a scorer to an efficient all around player. Less of a dominant shooter/scorer, but more all around than Barry.
Duncan - McHale. Duncan, and that's a bigger gap.
Hakeem - Malone. Hakeem, but it's not a blowout. Two very different players. Hakeem a true center, far better defensively, better creating his shot, better at passing. Moses the better rebounder and hustle point getter, less of a back to the basket guy, more of a 4-5, doesn't create nearly as much for himself or others, but doesn't stop the ball as much. If I want a go-to scorer and creator who can anchor defense, especially on a team without a dominant playmaker, it's Hakeem by a mile. If I want to replace Rodman with someone better on the Jordan Bulls, someone who won't dominate the ball much, I might take Moses.
Defensively, I like Pierce-Duncan-Moses about the same as Barry-McHale-Hakeem. Offensively, I like the Hakeem unit better in terms of individual talent, but I think the Duncan unit meshes together better.
So i have to say even, can't separate these.

backcourt Red
Isiah over Fat. Dumars and Ray seem close in overall impact. Fallen has size advantage, Red has proven chemistry.

bench fallen, but it's close

defense fallen gets advantage because of his bench, I think starting units are equal on defense

offense Red
I like how Fallen's unit fits together on offense. It has great passing, solid creators, solid size everywhere, good athleticism, it has the best hustle point getter in this matchup. This team will set a lot of screens, pass a lot, make smart decisions, win the rebounding battle.
Red has a number of guys who were among the best at creating shots individually. Red's team will stop the ball much more, but individually, his players are more talented offensively.
Overall, advantage to Red, especially considering the bench.

chemistry fallen For the reasons above.

Overall. I'm still not sure and can't separate these teams. I don't see a big flaw that the other team could abuse. But the breakdown is 2-3 + a tie. I'm just going to follow that and say Fallen wins 3-4.

 

4-1 RedNation atm. Unless something drastic happens soon, congrats to Red!