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[ClutchFans] Rockets will seek Dwight Howard trade... again

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 15, 2012.

  1. ThaShark316_28

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    Of course not. Going to be some speculation thrown around, because no one really knows ****. I won't say Houston, but watch Howard end up in NONE of those places, barring ORL getting a massive haul for helping a "power", not to mention accommodating a guy who didn't want to stay.

    My money is on an obscure team getting him. Again, unless Orlando gets "the world" from a top franchise, he's going to NBA Siberia for a season.
     
  2. leebigez

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    They were trying to give the lakers a title by giving them paul.
     
  3. ThaShark316_28

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    Games are won on paper now? OKC and SA = still better, IMO.
     
  4. xiki

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    Kobe is their offense initiator (and ball killer, oops). How would CP3 and Kobe have existed in real life?
     
  5. ArtV

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    Hey jtf, you strike me as a guy who knows a little about basketball, loves the Rockets and who also happens to be a jerk. Congrats on the first 2. Work on the 3rd.
     
  6. jtr

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    I feel that 50% of my posts are very complimentary to the contributors on CF, 20% present my analysis after homework, 20% state my opinion not as fact but as my opinion, and less than 10% have me going off on someone who presents their (ill considered) opinion as fact and derides me, calling me something like delusional, stupid, ignorant, or worse. I just can't bring myself to have any mercy on those people.

    However I will think about what you just said.

    Best of luck.
     
  7. jopatmc

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    They would have been sensational. Just like Kobe and DWill would be sensational and Kobe and Rondo would be sensational. You get a point guard like that, Kobe gets to run down the court free as a bird, run down to the high post and receive the pass back-to-the-basket in the triple threat. Kobe would be free to just roam around and find space because that type of point guard will find him for easy stuff.
     
  8. amaru

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    We will fail once again.
     
  9. RedDynasty

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    Yeppers
     
  10. jtr

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    Kobe in his final game against OKC had 33 shots and 0 assists. I am not convinced that he will ever change. He has too big of an ego.

    Kobe has become a coaches worst nightmare - a black hole where the ball goes in and never comes back out.

    But then again all this is speculation.
     
  11. jopatmc

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    Tell me. Who else on that team:

    1. Had the ability to take shots and hit them at an efficient rate?

    and

    2. Had the killer instinct to take shots and get their offense?
     
  12. it's our time

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    Well I am sure that many on here will disagree because I have also been reading the Gasol Trade Take 2.0 thread, but I can think of two players that fit 3/4 of your criteria (not so sure about the killer instinct thing).

    On the year Kobe scored 28 ppg while shooting 43% from the field and attempted 23 shots a game.

    Combined Bynum and Gasol scored 36 ppg while shooting 53% from the field and attempted 27 shots a game.

    But what stands out to me is that Kobe took FIVE 3ptrs a game and only hit 30% on the year!!!!!

    Call me crazy but that isn't killer instinct to me...that is just plain ego or pride or "I'm gonna get mine." And then after taking so many shots he starts throwing other people under the bus because they "don't have their head in the game" etc. (as if they could knowing that even if they get down there on the offensive end and fight for the low post position there is only a 25% chance they see the ball anyway).
     
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    It is Kobe's fault to a certain degree that he couldn't help Pau and Bynum gets their heads in the game. And it's partly their fault. They're out there playing for rings and pride. Bynum just flat-out sucked. Pau, in my opinion, is tired of one-dimensional offense. He's not enjoying playing that way.
     
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  14. solid

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    I think the Rocket's number one target should be Bynum. I have been pumping up the idea of a Howard acquisition for over a year, but, I have given up on that. I am concerned about the recent surgery and I don't like the "rental" idea. Anyway, Bynum has an even more serious injury history in terms of the number of incidents, but I think we have better shot at him. Clearly, he wants to be a or the focus of the offense. The Rockets would likely give him a bigger role in the offense than he has had in LA. Yes, he is an immature head case, but I think McHale can fix him. What do you think?
     
  15. CantBeRight

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    Bynum....you mean that lakers boy who gets ejected every single time we play them?
     
  16. jtr

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    Bynum .... is .... so .... difficult. I don't know whether to agree with you or post an opposing opinion. LOL I will just leave it with that.
     
  17. dham01

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    This!!! If Orlando trades Dhow for a star player, they have to already be on a long term contract. If not, they will simply leave also. No one wants to be on a team with no future, and unless Orlando gets rid of some of there bad contracts, that what they are. That's the reason Dwight wants to leave. People are talking about Bynum. He will be a free agent after next year. They will be in the same situation with him. NO TEAM is going to trade a star on a long term contract for a Dwight " rental". Its TOO risky, because if he leaves, you basically gave your star player away, and as a GM, you WILL BE FIRED!!
    If Orlando does the smart thing, they will use Dwight to get rid of their bad contracts and expedite their rebuilding process, because once Dwight is gone, they will be rebuilding. Their team is trash without Howard and they will not be able to get back equal value for him.
    This is why Houston is in such a GREAT POSTION to get Howard, because we can take the gamble and not be affected if he leaves. As a matter of fact, it would help our rebuilding process. We have young, decent player on cheap contracts to fill in gaps. We'll have cap space(after trading Scola) to sign Dwill. There is NO team in the league more prepared for a Dwight rental, then the Rockets and make no mistake, that's what Orlando is selling.
    GET ER' DONE, MOREY!!!
     
  18. solid

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    There is a risk no doubt, but he has amazing talent; he just needs psychotherapy. If McHale can link Bynum's head with his body, he can be a dominate player.
     
  19. it's our time

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    Trading for Howard wouldn't be a risk IF....

    We trade for DHoward before the season starts and then if he doesn't extend with us before the trade deadline then we trade him to any team OR his team of choice if they have something worth giving us.

    I don't know if trade rules allow us to trade a player we just traded for 1/2 year earlier but I wouldn't think that this type of move would be procluded.

    So if he won't sign an extension to just stay here, it seems to me that we get him to agree to a S&T to another team so that he doesn't leave a ton of money on the table....then we get back much (or maybe more) than we gave up in the first place. If he leaves without extending he will leave like 30 mil or something on the table right?

    Is this allowable and am I missing something that is pretty obvious as to why the Rox would or wouldn't want to do this?
     

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