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Is Durant really that much better than Tmac?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by YallMean, May 20, 2011.

  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    Tmac is clearly better at passing..

    passing the chance to stay with the franchise that drafted him

    passing the chance of staying in Orlando after having the worst season ever on his clock and getting Dwight Howard in the draft

    passing the chance of staying in Houston and New York
     
  2. BleedRocketsRed

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    I believe Houston and New York passed on keeping him
     
  3. tinman

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    Dude, this didn't happen that long ago.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=179464

     
  4. sammy

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    Give it a rest, tinman.

    Mcgrady in his prime is better than the current Durant. You're delusional if you think Mcgrady ever played with a better roster than the Thunder.

    At least, hate on Yao also since he was injured or played poorly in playoff series like the Utah one.
     
  5. Severe Rockets Fan

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    Sorry I'm late to this, but cmon...you can say that if you exclude 4 of the 7 games. He was phenomenal his first 3 games of the series...which most people remember...but started really dropping his shooting percentage as the series went on. This has been pretty much been the norm for Tmac in his playoff career...he starts out really well in a series, then gets worse and worse. He shot 29% from the field in the last game too... 7/24 FGs. That's hardly unstoppable...you make it sound like he never had any bad games and Durant does. That's BS.
     
  6. tinman

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    To be fair to Durant, he's not close to hitting his prime. he's done more as younger player than Tmac and as far as attitude, he's light years ahead of him.

    Tmac in his prime was a great player and gave the Rockets organization more spot light and higher expectations.
     
  7. tinman

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    Dude, read the title of this thread.

    That should hint to you who and why this thread was started.

    Tmac fans are jealous of every player that has team success in the league because that's what Tmac didn't do.

    It will always be this:

    In the [game that's more important than the 1st round], NBA Superstar didn't score as many points as Tmac [game that is obviously in the 1st round]

    to them, Tmac isn't that far away from Kobe Bryant in their minds.
    you are dealing with people who make the Rapture people look like Nostradamus.
     
  8. OHMSS

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    McGrady was more talented and better than Durant when he wanted to be. But McGrady was one of the laziest players around. Durant is not lazy and that is why he is more consistent. McGrady's career was a huge fail, based on his talent.
     
  9. flamingdts

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    Depends on what you mean by lazy.

    He got lazy late in his career, but early on? Not at all. He was in fact a great defender early on, and was primarily used as a defensive stopper along with Vince Carter. He was even given the task of guarding Nowitzki during the playoffs, and he did a great job at that.

    We didn't surround him with the talent that contenders need to have, and had we, we would easily have been a championship caliber team. You can blame T-Mac for becoming lazy, but the heart and passion was there when he came to the Rockets. Somewhere along the line he just started giving up.
     
  10. OHMSS

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    He didn't work on his game or his body nearly enough. That was really obvious. He had the talent to be better than Jordan and he never used it. He was way more gifted than Kobe and yet he is not half the player Kobe was to be honest about it.

    It all came down to his laziness in his work ethic.
     
  11. Tuan

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    I keep seeing people say that Durant will get immensely better. To be honest, how much better do you think he will get?

    His biggest weakness now is that he has no post game, but looking at his figure, do you think he will ever have a post game? He is a legit 7 footer but he cant even post up a washed up Jason Kidd!

    I am not hating on Durant, I love him as a player actually, but offensively I think he has topped out or close to it. Basketball is not a game where you get better with age, it is not like wine :grin:. These guys get better with experience, not age, and Durant has A LOT of experience already.

    If you look at Lebron, you cant say his offensive game has gotten significantly better in the last year or so. Young guys coming into the league will reach their prime faster than the players of 80s and early 90s.
     
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    KD is having more team success than Mac, but I still think Tracy was a more special talent.
     
  13. blackistan

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    Tmac had a better skill set than durant and is imo better than durant and as far as accomplishing as much as durant if tmac had a player alongside him even close to westbrooks level than he would've def gotten past the first round and at the end of the day tmac was just slowed by injuries. I'm not a tmac super fan or anything as a matter of fact I happen to like durant as a player and person better than tmac but I just think tmac in his prime was slightly better.
     
  14. saleem

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    Skill wise no,but Durant plays with heart and he is gaining confidence. KD has someways to go before blossoming into a true superstar who can take over the game at will,but Tracy didn't have it in him.
     
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    As much as I hated the man, I would take a healthy MerGady over Duranduran any time a day. The things our former #1 could do was off the charts.
     
  16. pmac

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    Really, if you look at Mcgrady's complete career it isn't very impressive. Some people decide to dismiss the failures of the latter stage of his career as being caused by injury and some don't give him that luxury. It's like considering Grant Hill an all time great for how good he was early in his career. Honestly, it's hard for me to look at Mcgrady's "orlando years" and not say that was a special player, it's just that player was only around for a couple seasons.

    Maybe if you look at peak individual ability (ridiculous, considering how young Durant is), you could make the argument that Mcgrady was better. But it's irrelevant, in 10 years or so kids won't know who the hell Mcgrady is while they watch Durant contend for titles annually.
     
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    dude. you really want to rehash this?
    Did you watch Tmac that year? how about when was with the Knicks?

    If I meet Daryl Morey, I would personally thank him for trading McGrady away.
     
  19. BleedRocketsRed

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    I am not arguing with you.

    All I did was correct you when you said "TMac passed on staying with Houston and New York." Houston and New York didn't want to keep him because of how much he had declined following the surgeries.

    I don't like TMac. I just think that he was a better player in his prime than Durant is now.
     
  20. Hball

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    Without a question T-mac was the better player but most will argue Durant is better due to his team success which is unfair due to the fact that durant obviously has had a better supporting cast in which is something T-mac has no control of as far as injuries (hill,Yao) and being surround by scrubs.
     

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