Well there ya go just as I said, run the VY RPO offense - that is about all you can do....with him. DD
NFL and pro QB's are not correlated at all. Josh Allen was mediocre at Wyoming. Mahomes was 13-19 at Texas Tech. Vince Young and Tim Tebow were mediocre in the NFL. Ewers is the only QB who made the final four of college football each of the last two years. He was a legitimate Heisman contender and was somewhere between good and great as a college QB. But he never had the arm strength to be an NFL QB.
oh really? AR15 , Trey Lance, and Zach Wilson ring a bell? And they don't have the last name as our Generational Savior in burnt orange.. And you really think Sark gonna warm up another body to replace him? You're outta touch then.. You don't mess with the money no matter how inadequate that player is.. The firestorm of laughter and criticism would destroy his rep
Well he was certainly more accurate. This feels like we have been here before, when we had a famous family and started his son over a better college QB. Simms over Applewhite - and once they finally went all major they almost got to the Natty if Mack wouldn't have called for a punt block when he was getting the ball back and Major was on fire. But that whole year, it was clear Simms wasn't all that great, he looked a lot like Arch.... I used to say, Simms would go to the line snap the ball and look to see who was open, where Major would go to the line look at the defense and KNOW who was going to be open. Arch looks slow reading, and horrible accuracy.....he can run, so that is why maybe they do the VY treatment take the pressure of the pass off of him with his legs. DD
I get that, but as a coach do you go down with the ship? I mean if Arch isn't the guy, you need to move on.....or at least start looking, this isn't HS - Sark wants to win, and if Arch isn't that guy and the team sees someone at practice better, he will have to make that move or lose the team. If the Mannings bail but Arch sucked, no one will care.... Yep the old VY offense is the way, has to be killing Sark. DD
Manning really didn't face the greatest competition in high school, but we assumed the pedigree of his uncles and grandfather would be there. I guess he runs a bit like Archie Manning did, but, I think Connor Weigman is a better player and prospect at this point.
Even on that TD pass, Arch's feet were still and he stared down Wingo. He doesn't bounce and stay light footed to step into his throws.
I'm not shocked that Arch isn't the best QB in the country, but I am surprised how much worse he looks than his starts last season.
Mahomes was really good in college. He made crazy throws all the time. In his final year they averaged 44 points a game. They just played no defense. Josh Allen is a complete anomaly. Usually inaccurate qbs don't get better in the pros. Usually mediocre qbs in college don't become great in the pros.
Exactly, he was always fairly accurate, could he have the YIPS? I mean at that age, can you have the YIPS? He probably has a ton of pressure being a Manning etc......but it is still just a game...... If it is the Yips get him some help.... DD
Skillsets are different though too. A strong arm is way more important in the NFL than in college. Until recently, mobility was way more important in college than the NFL. Mediocre college QBs generally don't become elite pros - that may be because of their inherent mediocrity, but also because they aren't really going to get NFL opportunities. How many Kurt Warners never got found? We'll never really know - but yeah, if you're mediocre against lesser competition, it probably doesn't bode well when everyone else is bigger/faster/stronger. But the flipside - which was the start of this convo in regards to Ewers - is that good/great college QBs don't necessarily translate into the NFL. Will Howard won the national title last year but he's going to be a nobody in the NFL, as will most of the CFP QB's. The list of NFL flops from elite college QBs is endless because the skillsets needed are just so different in many ways and the margin for error is so much smaller. And FWIW, Josh Allen was drafted in the top 10 despite all his flaws. That tells us that scouts saw something from the start that made them realize his skillset would translate differently in the pros. It wasn't like he was a 6th round pick flier that suddenly improved. He was expected to become really, really good.
Problem right now is there isn’t much help available. The run blocking is atrocious and we are in some serious trouble if Baxter is out. The WRs aren’t getting any separation and their blocking maybe worse than the OL. Add in the penalties and we are literally in 3rd and long every single drive.
I can’t help but wonder, where will Arch be next season? Back with the Longhorns? With another college team? In the NFL?
