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Groceries ARE EXPENSIVE AS HELL

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Aug 7, 2025 at 9:37 PM.

  1. Rocket River

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    American Capitalism as designed and currently implemented cannot have a 20-50 yr plan

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  2. Space Ghost

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    nothing stops this train.

    buy bitcoin, gold, real estate and other hard assets

    However we can make long term plans. Ss, medicare and Eisenhower interstate system are examples.
    We can create mandates to increase energy production and space exploration
     
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  3. SamFisher

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    They're not ignoring grocery prices - they are rigging the election in response
     
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  4. Rocket River

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    Sorry. I meant a Governmental/Societal 20-50 year plan
    Individuals can do it

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  5. dobro1229

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    This is another classic SG post that on its face looks normal, but when you think about it is all over the place.

    -Lumping in bitcoin while promoting "hard assets" is ... well something.

    -You literally voted in this last election (or at least have been an online activist for) to undermine those long term planned systems. Voting for Republicans and Trump is a direct challenge to those systems.

    -Who is the "we" here that is creating federal govt. mandates? If you aren't referring to the federal govt. then really who is "we"?

    -What do you mean by increasing energy production? Of course everyone wants more energy, but how you are getting that energy matters.

    -Space exploration.... kind of a random part of this statement. What is it about space exploration that has anything to do with economic and environmental stability? I think advancing the science and discovering how we can terraform is crucial. Not just because of having the ability to travel for more than a couple weeks to Mars, but because we need to terraform the earth back into the earth here soon.

    You are just sort of all over the place here man. Much of this is interesting discussion but what does any of it have to do with the fact that grocery prices are through the fcking roof right now, and these tariff policies are making the core issue that brought down Biden (inflation) 10% worse.

    This aint about going to Mars, or terraforming the Pluto. It's about some really freaking basic economic policy that is making my life worse right now directly, and also causing major uncertainty and instability in the larger corporate world most of us work in.
     
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    I can't get over this statement.

    And if you really gave it a serious thought, and didn't just write it off as a condescending elitist type of remark, practically if you were to base your entire weekly diet off of a brisket as your core protein for $65 dollars, that isn't also considering the cost of a smoker, the cost of the pellets if you use a pellet smoker, the cost of the rub, the cost of the butcher paper, and the cost of the sides, veggies, carbs, etc.

    To have this as your core protein for the week, you are into this investment well over 100 dollars anyways which is about what it would cost you to get a few days of regular groceries anyways.

    Not only that but eating brisket every day would diminish the satisfaction that you get from enjoying good brisket when you get it periodically on a special occasion which probably has some emotional value in retaining that satisfaction, and not making myself fcking hate brisket because I ate it for a week straight, and ended up looking like this guy:

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    Fair. I rotate weeks. One week, chicken in my salads. Week 2, Brisket in my salads. Week 3, Pork in my salads. By the end of the week, I am ready for a change, you are right. I like salads because you can add so many different flavors via olives, peppers, spices, dressing, etc. I do lazy keto so my carbs are low so I won't ever look like that guy.

    My point about brisket is that you can get a good bang for your buck. And it's meat like OP was referencing. And it's delicious.
     
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  8. Space Ghost

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    Why do you turn every benign post into an angry rant? Asking for a friend (the whole bbs)
     
  9. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Well, no.

    How many super focused, driven, stressed out Boomers are looking at living even another 20 years, let alone five? They don't look at long term gains, just gimmie gimmie gimmie **** my grandkids they can do it themselves the lazy gay punks! Never mind that the greatest economy in the history of the world was handed to us on a silver platter by our parents and we have royally ****ed it up. Also, **** the climate. Here’s your shitty Dollar General Christmas present. Now turn on Fox News so I can stew in my hate and not talk to anyone who loves me.
     
  10. Os Trigonum

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    brisket doesn't make you look like this guy . . . carbs make you look like this guy
     
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  11. Os Trigonum

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    hey, a related question. I was just having a hamburger for lunch (@ $7.99/lb) but noticed that my paper plate is not compostable in California. Anyone know why? I assume it will rot in California just as it would rot anywhere else. #SoManyQuestions

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    Quick reminder that Trump authorized more debt than biden did and the inflation we saw under biden occurred in every developed country in the world while the inflation we are seeing under Trumpis only happening here cuz of his tariff policies.

    I just dont know why MAGATs lie 24/7 thinking everyone is as brainwashed as they are?
     
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  13. SamFisher

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    Folks, even if you do eat brisket every day and brush your teeth with brisket and are able to use brisket instead of duct tape...

    ... brisket prices are at an all time high due to tariffs (particularly on Brazil) . A $50 cut last year is now $60+.

    My family is dying now thanks a lot
     
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  14. Space Ghost

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    it is considered construction material for the homeless in California
     
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    FYI one of the core reasons we have massive food inflation is bcz the meat industry is monopolized. There's 4 large meat packers that control over 90% of the industry. It got so bad that McDonald's filed a lawsuit against them bcz they were manipulating the price. If the meat packers can rig the prices for McDonald's imagine what they do to us?

    The Biden admini filed multiple antitrust lawsuits against in an attempt to break them up but litigation dragged on. The economy is rigged due to deregulation thats been pushed since Regan
     
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    obama-come-on-what-2.gif
     
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    Where are the posters complaining about EGG prices last year?? Prices are rising and they wont stop for a while, companies stocked up pre tariff and they won't pay the tarriff`s,,,,,,WE PAY it, we will then pay for higher domestic foods because no one is picking them

    This isnt the Covid Supply Chain Issue this is a self-inflicted crisis to subsidize the Billionaire tax relief

    It's the ECONOMY stupid, and it will be downhill from here and we can Thank the maga movement. And people wonder why so many gop folks who have to run next year are nervous................the poor family who doesn't do politics will not be able to feed the family and when they have a chance to change who represents them, they will make a change. This is the DUMBEST policy I have witnessed in a long time.............THIS IS SELF INFLICTED, JUST TURN THE DAM TARRIFFS OFF

    I read an article from Kevin O Leary who says he doesn't fear the tariffs...........of course he doesn't he is a Billionaire, the poor guy who lives check to check will feel this and its going to hurt
     
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    The corporate farm industry control has been putting thousands of farmers and ranchers out of business for years. I'm not sure how much worse it will get. It's sad that families can't farm like they used to.

    Today there are 70 percent fewer hog farmers than in the mid-1990s, while just four companies control two-thirds of hog slaughter. Nearly 17,000 cattle ranchers have gone out of business each year since 1980; 85 percent of the beef market is now controlled by the top four meatpackers. Trends are similar across agriculture: the top four companies in each industry control 85 percent of the corn seed market, 90 percent of grain trading, and 63 percent of food retail. Twenty percent of farms control nearly 70 percent of US farmland.

    Making matters worse, seed, chemical, machinery, and other farm input companies have also consolidated. Farmers used to be able to shop around for the best price for the supplies they need to farm, but now there is often just one seller, which might be an hour’s drive away.

    Corporate consolidation drives farmer income down and gives farmers less autonomy. Besides there simply being fewer markets for farmers to sell and buy from, agribusiness wields its power over farmers in several other ways.

    Many agribusiness companies have grown by buying up all the parts of the supply chain. For example, a network of independent hog farmers, feed mills, veterinarians, and the like used to contribute to the operations of a meatpacking plant, which spread wealth around the community and gave the town a real investment in the company. Today, a company like Smithfield has integrated feed, breeding, slaughter, and nearly everything else under its own umbrella (often buying up smaller companies in the process). Vertical integration allows the company to have total control over quality and price, and this means that all profits come back to itself, rather than being distributed throughout the community.

    Nearly all chickens raised in the US are under production contracts between poultry processors and farmers. The contracts dictate everything about how the farmer must raise the birds, from feed to housing to medical care. The farmer must pay to build the barns and other infrastructure, according to the processor’s specifications. Once committed, they often find that the contracts are deeply unfair: while they are now on the hook for millions of dollars of debt, the processor can stop delivering chicks at any time, effectively cutting off their income. Poultry processors have been known to punish farmers by stopping deliveries, leaving them to face bankruptcy or loss of the farm.

    Since the 1800s, dairy farmers have formed cooperatives to get a better price for their milk from dairy processors. Unlike corporations, whose goal is shareholder profit, cooperatives are supposed to work for the good of their members and return any profits to those members – in this case, the dairy farmers whose cows produce the milk. Today, however, the largest dairy coops have become vertically integrated and often act more like corporations. By owning processing facilities, they act as both buyer and seller, and often focus more on their own profit than the interests of their farmer members.

    Farmers of most commodities, including beef, milk, pork, and many others, must pay a tax, called a checkoff, on the goods they produce and sell. The funds are supposed to go to research and promotion of their products (“Pork: The other white meat” and “Got Milk?” were developed with checkoff funds.). Instead, the money is used by trade groups that represent agribusiness, who use it to lobby for policies that benefit big meatpackers, corporate dairy coops, and others – not the independent family farmers who pay the tax.

    https://nffc.net/what-we-do/ending-corporate-
     
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  19. Sanctity

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    Dannon Yogurt has no benefits. It's not gut health bacterial promoting due to the low count and poor microbe profiles. It's just a sugar snack laced with other stuff.
     
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    Thanks Dr. Oz.

    FYI I would recommend reading up on the basic science of nutrition. BBQ isn’t just straight protein. There’s also a good amount of fat and sugars that turn into fat in bbq. Just as carbs are broken down into glucose aka sugars that also make you fat.

    But go ahead and try astrodomes brisket for a week diet and see how wonderful you feel.
     
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