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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. ROXRAN

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  2. lionaire

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    Nice try hasbara propagandist. If those people are Hamas why arent they shooting at them then? It's because the people in the footage are the isis members that the zionist regime has been funding and collaborating with.

     
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  3. lionaire

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    Of course they're trying to smear the whistleblower. Unfortunately for genocide deniers like yourself, his testimony lines up exactly with what soldiers of the zionist occupation army have been saying as well.

     
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    Trump says this, but then will continue to give Israel all the money, weapons, and support he can spare

    99% of republicans, and a decent number of Dems are on board as well

     
  5. Amiga

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    I'm not sure what drives some people to buy into denialism in the face of overwhelming evidence, basic logic, and critical thinking. I suspect it's driven at a deeper level by either a need to maintain a prior viewpoint or, something worse, hate for a particular class of people. It's not so different from holocaust deniers.
     
  6. lionaire

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    The behavior you're describing is most commonly observed in the older crowd. Undoing the decades of pro-zionist propaganda they've been exposed to all their lives will take time but there's no doubt that the tide is turning.
     
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    Also a lot of is spawned from deeply-rooted islamophobia. These types are easy to spot because they'll conflate actual terrorist groups such as al-qaeda, taliban, isis (creations of the west) to resistance groups like hamas and hezbollah. To them, brown man wielding arms = terrorist.
     
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    I don't let Trump off the hook at all for this. It is as much his famine as Netanyahu's. He collaborated with this UN-condemned alternate food aid distribution scheme. The idea was to keep Palestinians on the very brink of starvation, and now that the IDF pushed things a little over the edge, Trump needs plausible deniability so the PR doesn't blow back on him. But he doesn't want them fed; he wants them emaciated with hunger with just enough trickling in keep them barely alive. It's just that his partner didn't get the titration right.
     
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  9. Amiga

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    Long term, it's a beautiful piece of real estate and $ flowing from the sky. Beautiful, modern, civil. The green light was given and Netanyahu went full speed. But, it's beautiful.
     
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    Amen, he was gung-ho to turn gaza into a resort and now he cares about the Children.............whats changed is the optics and that's all he cares about, he doesn't give 2 ***** to anyone but himself
     
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    Let’s not forget your so-called resistant group Hamas specifically stated Palestinian civilian deaths are necessary
     
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    Numerous sources, including human rights organizations and news reports, document incidents of Hamas killing Palestinian civilians in Gaza
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    Examples of such incidents include:
    • 2014 Gaza/Israel conflict: Amnesty International reported that Hamas forces carried out a campaign of abductions, torture, and unlawful killings against Palestinians accused of "collaborating" with Israel and others, executing at least 23 people and arresting and torturing dozens more.
    • Targeting of individuals seeking aid: Recent reports indicate that Hamas has been involved in killing Palestinian civilians attempting to access humanitarian aid, particularly at sites operated by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF). Some reports suggest Hamas has threatened to kill Palestinians who cooperate with the Israeli military, according to PBS.
    • Use of human shields: Critics of Hamas, including the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), accuse the organization of deliberately operating within densely populated civilian areas and advising civilians to ignore Israeli evacuation warnings, thereby putting them in harm's way and increasing the likelihood of civilian casualties during Israeli military operations.
    • Misfired rockets: There have been instances where Hamas's rockets, aimed at Israel, have misfired and landed within Gaza, killing Palestinian civilians.
    All the above is verified. Hamas don’t care about Palestinian civilians, they are what might make Israel look bad. If they could go back to October 7 and focused less on civilians, they wouldn’t do it even if it meant sparing Palestinian civilian lives as a consequence. Palestinian civilians is simply a convenient host that accepted it is at Hamas mercy Which certainly includes the option of death
     
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    Dude US intelligence confirmed the idf was killing civilians waiting for food. More Palestinians died waiting in line for food just the past 2 weeks than all of October 7 combined by hamas. These are the facts

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/07/1165396

    If you truly hate hamas and dont realize all you're doing is creating more hatred then you're an idiot man. This is why the first time israel has a below 50% popularity in USA

    The only people the idf are fooling are you boomers
     
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    So what's the difference between a terrorist group killing innocent civilians and a leader of a country killing innocent civilians? Nothing, except for the number of civilians killed, and Israel has killed far more women, children and babies. It isn't even close. I'll never understand how anyone can support killing innocent civilians, gunning down children, and starving women and babies. That's just disgusting. Hamas is evil and Netanyahu"s regime is just as evil.
     
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    What you posted is by UNRWA - here's why UNRWA is NOT credible :

    Numerous credible reports and sources indicate a significant degree of infiltration of the UNRWA by Hamas
    . This infiltration is not limited to individual staff members but extends to the systematic exploitation of UNRWA facilities and resources by Hamas for its military activities.
    Here's a breakdown of the key findings regarding UNRWA and Hamas infiltration:
    1. Hamas operatives among UNRWA staff
    • Multiple reports, including Israeli intelligence assessments and investigations by organizations like UN Watch, have highlighted the presence of Hamas operatives within UNRWA's staff in Gaza.
    • The number of identified Hamas members within UNRWA staff varies across different reports, ranging from dozens to as many as 1,462 or 12% of UNRWA's Gaza workforce.
    • These individuals are reportedly employed in various positions, including teachers, school principals, social workers, engineers, and even senior positions within the organization.
    • Some UNRWA employees are alleged to have participated in the October 7th attacks against Israel, according to The Wall Street Journal and other reports.

    • 2. Hamas exploitation of UNRWA facilities
      • Evidence suggests that Hamas has systematically used UNRWA facilities, including schools and headquarters, for military purposes, such as storing weapons, building tunnels, and launching rockets.
      • Terror tunnels, including a central intelligence command center, have been found running beneath UNRWA facilities, connected to the agency's electricity supply.
      • Weapons caches and observation rooms have been found within UNRWA compounds, indicating their use as operational bases by Hamas.
     
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    @lionaire @LosPollosHermanos think how crazy this is.... Americans are now paying a 10% tax on all Canadian imports bcz Canada had the audacity to think Palestinians deserve a state after they incurred a genocide

    Were all puppets to the israelis
     
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    You literally posted a piece of propaganda. Did nobody every teach your how to appraise evidence? You keep glossing over the fact that ISRAELI human rights orgs have finally come out admitting its a genocide and Trump himself is openly saying there is mass starvation. There are 4k images demonstrating this. A 4chan piece of biased editorail piece is not objective evidence. All it shows is you are willing to reinforce your desire for genocide

    Digging through the internet or spending all your time trying to debunk factual information just says a lot about you.

    You are not dumb, you're just evil man.
     
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    everything is factual but ok I'm "evil" lmao
     
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    one of the most impossible tasks is arguing with an idiot.

    how can I convince you it stinks around you when you're in a diarrhea fountain? You lack a fundamental ability to reason, apply logic or appraise even basic evidence. Look at your buddy Basso, all he does it scavenge tweets and lines of text random people post online. The crazy part is he legitimately believes youtube comments and opinionated tweets are evidence

    The scammer market blew their load the second oldass dudes like yourself discovered the internet and facebook. You guys are gullible as **** and lose yourself in the blog gossip world you deliberately seek out. If you really wanted to argue in facts you would have logical points applied to specific points (many from your own messiahs). You wouldn't accept demolishing an entire school if your kid was in there because a school shooter had holed up and then go "ok I guess its just the school shooter's fault!"

    You choose to dehumanize a group of people because your parents from the 40s did a shitty and ignorant job in raising you and the internet provides a good avenue into the sewage you grew up in. I know nobody here will say it, but its the truth. For the record I'm not saying any of this to convince you, its just as futile as trying to win over Neo-Nazis. When epstein Trump goes..."the starvation is pretty bad" and you're sitting here trying to justify continuing the current state of affairs you just arne't a good person.
     

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