Fred VanVleet will be the worst FA acquisition in Rockets history

FVV more than serves our purposes on and off the court during this transition. And, that contract will almost certainly be used with assets attached for a real max player at next year's deadline.

 

highly doubtful. They didn't pay him max money for him to play less than 2 years. For better or worse FVV is going to be here for the duration of his 2 year guarantee. The only decision will be what they decide on that 3rd year option which will be contingent on how next year goes

by then they will have to pay Sengun, possible extention options for Bari/Tari, and who knows what's in store for JG at this point

 

I really wish he was around to show Green how to score

 

I'm pretty sure they structured his contract with a club option for a third year so they would have option of trading him next deadline, the 2026 deadline, or keeping him for 2 or 3 years. The Rockets FO has been very open about not knowing exactly what will happen in the future and that they try to keep things flexible in case things go well or go poorly.

I think trading him next deadline was the likeliest of options. Not sure about it being for a star. I'd guess draft capital and expirings.

 

I wouldn't bet on that.

I would bet on FVV playing out at minimum 2 full seasons as a Rocket though

 

You wouldn't bet that FVV is either a Rocket for 2 or 3 years, traded next deadline, or trade at the following deadline? I think it is very doubtful he's traded this deadline or offseason.

Edit: I didn't see second sentence. FVV playing out 2 years is one of the options the Rockets FO left open for them.

 

No it meant I wouldn't bet on FVV being traded before playing for 2 years in Houston. Meaning he'll still be here after next year's deadline.

And I would bet on him playing 2 full seasons at least

 

That's highly possible. I'd say it is probable at this point. I don't think the FO signed him with it set in Stone that that would be the case. I think the hope was at the time of signing was to trade him at the next deadline, but with a lot of flexibility to do other things. I don't think the FO expected him to play this well with Sengun, Sengun to play this well, that KPJ would do something stupid and get caught, and that Green would regress so much offensively such that FVV has been more necessary than they expected.

 

I think it is. Year 1 was for what we are seeing now. Year 2 is the hope they actually get into the play in opportunity. They're pretty dumb if they think signing him to max was a 1 year thing

 

The max was the only way to get him to the Rockets, and it provides a lot of matching salary as an expiring contract at either next deadline or the one after.

 

still overpaid and it won't be a deal they use in a trade. Again I wouldn't bet on that happening.

 

welp... jus checkin in to see if FVV is regarded as a worse signing than Ryan Anderson, Stromile Swift or Melo...

have folks got their Ryno pitch forks in the air?

any coaches quit yet bc of the signing?

lol

 

I would bet on that because our front office is still incompetent in the trading department, not trading him when he has such a good trade relief contract, if given the option, would be stupid.

Love the guy, but his on court production isn't worth as much as we paid him, plain and simple.

 

I mean a lot of us knew he wasn’t a true max player. And called it an overpay from the beginning. But again for better or worse he’s going to play 2 years here at minimum to me. I don’t think that’s much of a question for me

 

He has been great as a table setter, but his inability to finish at the rim hurts us.

DD

 

I'm not sure what there is to be surprised about. FVV is doing what he was brought here to do. He's having a pretty typical year by his standards.

We really didn't have a ton of options. They had to spend the money in the offseason. And, I'm not sure Harden really wanted to come back, he likely just wanted to leaverage a Houston offer to get a bigger deal from Morey to stay in Philly.

If Harden did come back, he would have made this team better in the short term but that kinda doesn't matter when look at the age of this team.

 

Of course it matters. You’re winning more and getting the better player. His age doesn’t really matter when despite being older he’s better than FVV still and impacts the game at a higher level. And well folks can’t really point to money anymore being the difference bc they gave FVV max anyway
What you’re saying applies to FVV as well who makes the team somewhat better but not to the degree of a real playoff team. Something harden has clearly proven

 

Impact stats i look at have him at 38th this year(difference between 38th and 30th is negligible). He’s down slightly compared to last few years, and some young players have leaped past him like Edwards, Sengun. Sga isn’t close anymore, made a major jump into top 5.

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm

I dunno how this is some kind of slight though, anyone watching the rockets can see the second Fred goes to the bench we fall apart, that’s why he’s near the top in the league in mpg. “Basic and bland” lol same dude that was hyping Jalen and Cade in the draft thread thinks he knows basketball now

 

You’re the one who called him a top 20 player. He never was and never will be. Thats whats so funny and what we’re laughing at. Hes exactly what i said he was

 

I still think harden was a better play. Fvv is serviceable but paying him that much to b serviceable is just stupid.

A man being paid that much should b the guy shining the brightest on our team. Imagine paying someone that much for fvv statline