Hurts, Baker and Kyler aren’t busts. Palmer was good, Cassel, Peete, Salisbury and Rob Johnson all had solid careers
If baker and Kyler aren’t busts then we better see equally long leashes for stroud/Bryce young. Kyler and baker were first overall picks. Kyler needed a stipulation in his contract that he would study football and has an immovable contract. Baker is on his 3rd (4th?) team and hasn’t led any of them anywhere…
Busts in the sense they had production. Has there ever been an Ohio St QB that has had a season like any of Kylers or Bakers?
Nope. And I get that. But I don’t think an Ohio state qb has gone top 2 either. That adds more bust potential.. but I do agree osu has had less success in the nfl.
Man, the ****ing media thinks we're going to be the 2nd worst team in all of football. There is no way in hell....
Oh, there's definitely a way we'll be the 2nd worst team in football. We have a rookie QB and a rookie head coach. We have a young team across the board. We lack playmakers on offense. Sad to report, but there's a very realistic chance of us being amongst the league's worst again.
FWIW, heard on NFL Radio this morning that Watson is looking like his old self and has his confidence back. Not the news I wanted to hear.
scary stuff. In his best season in houston, he led us to two full wins. That would be devastating. For the Browns.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/dr...mock-draft-round-1-projections-caleb-williams 1. Arizona Cardinals — Caleb Williams, QB, USC 2. Arizona Cardinals (via HOU) — Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State 3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina 4. Indianapolis Colts — Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State 5. Los Angeles Rams — Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State 6. Tennessee Titans — JC Latham, OT, Alabama 7. Green Bay Packers — Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame 8. Washington Commanders — Quinn Ewers, QB, Texas 9. Las Vegas Raiders — Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama 10. Chicago Bears (via CAR) — Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama 11. Chicago Bears — Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State 12. New England Patriots — Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia 13. Atlanta Falcons — Bralen Trice, EDGE, Washington 14. Pittsburgh Steelers — Maason Smith, DT, LSU 15. New York Giants — Rome Odunze, WR, Washington 16. Denver Broncos — J.T. Tuimoloau, EDGE, Ohio State 17. Houston Texans (via CLE) — Michael Hall Jr., DT, Ohio State The Texans need to keep adding talent all over the roster, and the defensive line remains a glaring weakness -- even after Houston traded up for Will Anderson Jr. in April. Hall is a quick-footed interior defender who displays burst out of the starting blocks at the snap. He checks a lot of key boxes as a pass-rusher, but his early-down reps as a run defender must improve in 2023. He had 4.5 sacks and 6.5 tackles for loss on only 290 defensive snaps last season. Potential needs: WR, DL, CB 18. Miami Dolphins — Donovan Jackson, G, Ohio State 19. Seattle Seahawks — Jer'Zahn Newton, DT, Illinois 20. New Orleans Saints — Christian Mahogany, G, Boston College 21. Minnesota Vikings — Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State 22. Los Angeles Chargers — Kris Jenkins, DT, Michigan 23. Green Bay Packers (via NYJ) — Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami 24. Baltimore Ravens — Cooper Beebe, G, Kansas State 25. Detroit Lions — Kalen King, CB, Penn State 26. Jacksonville Jaguars — Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia 27. Dallas Cowboys — Jason Marshall Jr., CB, Florida 28. Buffalo Bills — Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson 29. San Francisco 49ers — Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU 30. Cincinnati Bengals — Graham Barton, OT, Duke 31. Philadelphia Eagles — Javon Bullard, S, Georgia 32. Kansas City Chiefs — Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas
So they are predicting us to have the worst or second worst record. Boy are they going to be surprised. This guy is probably from Phoenix.
As long as the Texans legitimately believe in CJ Stroud's potential, drafting him was the right decision. Think about it: the Texans staged a full-blown tank last year... and finished with the second overall pick. Building your franchise around a future that may or may not ever materialize is a recipe for disaster. Now, if the Texans view Stroud as a lesser prospect... then, yeah. You take Anderson and let it play out. Forcing the pick isn't a good strategy, either. All indications are that it's the former and not later, though.
Lmao people already giving up on Stroud. "but what about next year's QB class?" You could apply that logic forever. There's no reason to believe that the 2024 QB class has a generational talent in it.
Except the consensus is there’s two generational talents in next years class and a bunch of other guys comparable to this years class. Williams and Maye are elite talents. Physically better than any in this draft and put up numbers.
