1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

To extend KPJ or not?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lachard Binkley, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,571
    Likes Received:
    38,804
    Teams OVERPAY for RFA to force the other team to let him go, numerous cases of this have happened, we did it for Jeremy Lin - it happens all the time RFA get a contract that is beyond their normal value and teams let them walk for zero compensation.

    The RFA situation is worse than the UFA......because an UFA can just go where he wants even if it is less money.

    DD
     
  2. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,892
    more logical thinking in a thread that lacks it. yikes
     
    Easy and REEKO_HTOWN like this.
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,571
    Likes Received:
    38,804
    Astrorule has it 100% bassackwards on the RFA vs UFA......and I am not saying the "IF" will happen.

    I HOPE it does.....I have repeatedly said, I would offer him a 2 year 12-13m per year deal with a team option for the 3rd year....TODAY.......but if he wants more, I would let the market set the price.

    DD
     
  4. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    This makes no sense because you can say the same thing with Green and Smith what do you do if the best player overlaps with them?

    At this point it does not matter the team should be in talent acquisition and having guys that overlap makes no difference and nobody knows how good rookies actually are, we do know how KPJ looks against actual NBA talent but we should care about a rookie and IF he is as good?

    Its crazy because you had people on here talking about not drafting Banchero because of Sengun and now this.:rolleyes:

    If you lock yourself into a long term deal with any of these guys, things become more difficult and complicated using your example.
     
  5. King1

    King1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    13,275
    Likes Received:
    8,719
    Lol DD buried himself. Perfect comparison with Lin to KPJ(fans too). At least Lin wasn't a douchebag
     
    REEKO_HTOWN likes this.
  6. King1

    King1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    13,275
    Likes Received:
    8,719
    You realize Houston was going to draft Banchero but Orlando changed their mind?

    Nobody wants KPJ. Period. He jS tge opportunity to prove people wrong. Let's see h hog the ball and lose games. He's at least good at that
     
    REEKO_HTOWN likes this.
  7. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    They are not that far off, and Haliburton has had better players around him.

    But Haliburton is a step above, I give him that.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,571
    Likes Received:
    38,804
    if you draft a better player at his position, you trade him as an asset to get something you need, I don't want to be in a position of giving up a good player for nothing.

    DD
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,485
    Likes Received:
    31,951
    So it's your opinion that thus far Jalen Green has been "outright bad" then?

    I'd disagree... but of course the arguement comes down to player evaluation.
     
  10. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    7,704
    Likes Received:
    7,605
    Ya, it happened many years ago to market an asian guy, but in almost all situations RFA gets squeezed, because teams don’t want to tie up cap space just to have to orher team get matched. Brunson does not get his deal if he’s restricted
     
  11. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    7,704
    Likes Received:
    7,605
    He was a rookie guard, of course he was bad. Rookie guards (young ones) are almost always bad. If he’s the same next year and the year after as he was this year, would you consider him a bust? Or a superstar? Or what?
     
  12. PatBev

    PatBev Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2017
    Messages:
    3,730
    Likes Received:
    5,465
    Really need this season to start. Buying league pass just so I can witness KPJ tear this fan base apart
     
  13. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    What Houston would have done has nothing to do with what I posted.

    My point was I got into multiple arguments with people saying we should not draft Banchero because of Sengun, I knew the Rockets would draft who they thought was the best player regardless.

    I was responding to the poster saying we should sign him early because of who we might draft, you draft the best talent period and figure it out later with a team this bad.

    Houston wants KPJ the fact that you can't even acknowledge shows you can't be rational when discussing him.
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,571
    Likes Received:
    38,804
    We also lost Parson's that way.....and Dmo.....

    It happens a lot.

    DD
     
  15. King1

    King1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    13,275
    Likes Received:
    8,719
    You guys can keep pretending but he isn't wanted right now. Still no deal
     
  16. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    Their are definitely people rooting against KPJ we both know it, thats what this board does to certain players.
     
    Bobbythegreat and DaDakota like this.
  17. King1

    King1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    13,275
    Likes Received:
    8,719
    Thank God. Will e the same here
     
    REEKO_HTOWN likes this.
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,571
    Likes Received:
    38,804
    That is 100% exactly my issue, it is embarrassing that people are rooting against him....there are reasonable ones who just want to wait it out....Clutch, Easy etc...but there are those that are actively cheering for him to fail.....what assholes.

    DD
     
    jiggyfly and Verbal Christ like this.
  19. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    7,704
    Likes Received:
    7,605
    Both of those were good, they both sucked after leaving so it's good we didn't extend them (parsons was fine for dallas for 2 years then horrific)
     
  20. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    7,704
    Likes Received:
    7,605
    Why would anyone root against him? I don't understand this thinking. The only player i could ever think of rooting against that was a rocket (technically) was derek fisher. I could not root for draymond if he was a rocket though, so it's possible i guess
     

Share This Page