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Dierker Era or Hinch Era

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by lnchan, Aug 20, 2021.

  1. Pistol Pete

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    Those teams won in spite of Dierker's managerial skills.
     
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  2. King1

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    It was awful in both instances. Pujols HR hurt worse though.
     
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  3. King1

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    Eddie Johnson got held
     
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  4. King1

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    Yep. I do like the new direction of the team though. I went ahead and renewed my season tickets. I didn't do that with the Texans
     
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  5. msn

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    Its hard to top a WS title, but losing control of your clubhouse gives Hinch both a higher ceiling and a lower floor when compared to Dierker era baseball in how I think of them.
     
  7. vince

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    As much as I liked Bagwell and Biggio, those guys were so negative on interviews. I know it was a different era, but I think they just put so much pressure on themselves that they didn’t play loose. And were easier to defeat by other teams. And they seemed to run that clubhouse with extreme rigidity.

    The Altuve/Springer clubhouse seemed loose and happy. It seems they didn’t press as much, and were able to play with a clear head. These Astros just knew, trust the percentages, and things will fall in line… and they did!
     
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  8. msn

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    Did he really lose the clubhouse though?
     
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    Fun thread, if we're going on best single seasons:

    1B: Bagwell
    2B: Biggio
    SS: Correa
    3B: Bregman
    LF: Alou
    CF: Hidalgo
    RF: Berkman
    C: Ausmus or Maldonado, doesn't matter
    DH: Altuve
    Bench: Carl E, Spiers, Marwin, other C
    SP: Verlander, Cole, Unit, Hampton, Kile or Morton?
    RP: Wagner, Dotel, Pressly, Osuna, Elarton, Devo, McHugh, Harris

    That team would **** people up. If we're going on best span over those maanger's years, that's a different story.
     
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  10. Tomstro

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    Oswalt over Kile and Morton.
     
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  11. Buck Turgidson

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    Good call, I tried to forget Dierker managed in '01
     
  12. jim1961

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    In a disciplinary and/or control way, yes.
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

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    Dierker never cared to control it in the first place, for better or worse.
     
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  14. Madmanmetz

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    I truly try to forget that I was at that Warriors game. My Astros game was Game 1 vs Nats not a sucker punch but should have won game 1.
     
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  15. lnchan

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    Oswalt was much more the Scrap Iron era.
     
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  16. Buck Turgidson

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    2001
     
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  17. Tomstro

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    true but he was dominant his rookie year for Dierker
     
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  18. desihooper

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    Didn't he get hurt that year? Another loss to the Braves, IIRC....
     
  19. Tomstro

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    was that the groin pull?
     
  20. msn

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    He got hurt, Carlos Hernandez got hurt, and Wade Miller got hurt. Our rotation was decimated heading into that series.
     
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