You were the one insinuating that just because he gave up a bunch of 1st inning home runs at starter that using him as a closer is silly. All, I was pointing out is that given the different approaches, it doesn't really show how effective he would be as a closer.
but it might. See we don’t know. I think everyone on this board is well aware of the differences between closing and starting. Its cool though, the way you broke it down is a lot like how I would tell my 5 yr old son, if he were to ask me the difference. AND it is fathers day!!
"The fundamental question is, will JV be as effective as a closer like he was as a starter? And he will be, even more so. But until he is, it's going to be hard to verify that I think he'll be more effective." - Little Carmine Lupertazzi
Not saying we would, also not saying he would But Is it possible, rules wise, to sign him to a 1 year extension at a lower number right now, and have they reduce our tax number immediately which would increase the player pool we can go after by the deadline?
I'm not 100% sure they can do that once the season started already. They have done it in the past in spring training, but not sure you can lower the AAV during the season. Also, I'm not sure I want Verlander back. 1. Before I give a 39 year old coming off TJ surgery a contract I need to see him pitch. So he really needs to come back for the end of the season and show he still has his velocity. Also, he was apparently a sticky stuff user. Need to see the spin rates and how well his fastball plays without the Anaheim Goo. 2. Verlander will still be somewhat innings limited coming off the surgery. So not sure I want to see the Astros pay 15-20 million for 140 innings of Verlander. 3. Astros have 6 starters already for next year with Valdez, McCullers, Urquidy, Garcia, Odorizzi, and Javier. 4. Astros have holes to fill at SS, CF, and the bullpen
There is no prohibition on extensions during the regular season. They may occur at any time. If it is arranged such that it lowers the AAV for the year, it is what it is, just like adding or losing players affects the AAV in season. As for wanting Verlander back, that was not part of the question.
"A team's Competitive Balance Tax figure is determined using the average annual value of each player's contract on the 40-man roster, plus any additional player benefits. Every team's final CBT figure is calculated at the end of each season. (Note: If a player signs a contract extension that doesn't kick in until a later season, his AAV for the purposes of the CBT doesn't change until the new deal begins.)" There would be far too many ways to abuse this if it were allowed.
"If a player signs a contract extension that doesn't kick in until a later season..." He asked about an extension that would involve the current season. At least that is how I interpreted his question. So if the player agreed, he could sign an extension that would encompass the current season and one additional season that would increase actual cash for the current season, but also lower the AAV for the current season.
If I were Jim Crane I would be royally ****in pissed if a guy I was paying $33M to not play was doing interviews talking about wanting to play for another team next year.
He can sign a one year deal with the Stros on the cheap to prove his worth and get another ring then finish his career with the Tigers.
Yeah I was thinking a 2 year deal with Houston to win another ring then a 2 year farewell tour with Detroit just as they should be entering their window.
This surprises anyone exactly why though? He wasn't really looking to leave Detroit when he came here and has always been clear that he wouldn't mind going back.
