Exactly! Think about that. He feels he can turn around just about any franchise BUT THIS ONE!!!! Your answers are all in front of you yet you are clinging to some invisible standard. He's been a winner his whole life! This season sapped his love for the first time probably. You think winning is NOT important to him? He plays for championships, money is just a cherry for him. He can get money anywhere. You are downplaying just how awful the front office for this team is/has been/will be.
I’m not a player fan only, I wish him the best, but want him to be successful here. If he goes somewhere else, I would prefer the team fail so the picks are better. I don’t know how else to make that clear. I can condemn the team for their actions and inability to prioritize winning over everything and at the same time want my home town team to be successful. No player is ever going to be above my home town team or franchise.
No, I’m really not. You are downplaying just how bad other teams (some on his list) front offices and management are. Watson is not going to carry a bad team, he’s good but not that good. And what about him says that he knows what it takes to be a winner? He thinks he can go anywhere and win, yet he can’t do that here? After he co-signed on OB and other moves? The logic isn’t consistent.
And you don’t know winning is all that matters to him. You’re assuming. Fair assumption but not remotely close to being “truth”. His actions are saying his brand is more important than other aspects of his career.
His actions are saying the exact opposite to me. The fact that it's been reported he's almost willing to go ANYWHERE but Houston, tells me this isn't about money, this isn't 100% about winning, because he thinks he can do that anywhere, but this is about getting out of a toxic culture. I firmly believe that something has happened that has made him believe this relationship just isn't salvageable (either something heinous we haven't heard of yet, or Cal refusing to get rid of the cancerous Easterby)
Deshaun needs to go ask for “a little raise”. What Hopkins knew was, “that asking for a little raise would lead to the outcome that I got,” he says, “which is the outcome that I wanted.” ... It wasn’t just about contract, although it factored in and, by asking to redo it, Hopkins knew he could leverage his way out of town. ... But in that meeting Hopkins told Irvin that, in reference to Hopkins’s friends, O’Brien brought up another player he had coached, former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez, the convicted murderer who hanged himself in prison. O’Brien also used the term “baby mothers” to refer to the mothers of Hopkins’s three children, two boys and a girl. (He is not married.) O’Brien confidants say they doubt the coach used those exact words. But because the men lacked depth in their relationship, the sentiments that O’Brien expressed didn’t come across as genuine concerns for Hopkins and his well-being. They seemed like answers to why they had no relationship in the first place. They felt like judgments, from a coach who didn’t seem to care about him—plus the outdated contract.
So typical to pull out the race card. When everything fails, claim racism (falsely) and organizations will fear the moniker and cave into fear. This has nothing to do with race. Anyone that claims that is just a close minded idiot.
https://www.radio.com/957thegame/ch...9ZLHwrKTZXywshaEnPDaQlcTqNrEjdzqzfsQhcYtgwryo Chris Simms - Source says Watson will sit out 2021 season if he has to and will never play for Texans again.
At this point, if we trade Deshaun... I hope it’s the Jets. Best package, and they’ll likely still suck even with Deshaun- which keeps the future picks valuable. Post Deshaun and post JJ- we will likely be in the running for the #1 pick next year. Zach Wilson and Justin Fields don’t excite me much. I’d take that #2 pick and trade back with a team who wants one of those 2 QBs and stockpile more picks. Create a bidding war for Deshaun. Even if you know the Jets package is the best available, entertain a Miami package, entertain a plethora of Raiders picks... max the Jets out until they’re ready to mortgage their entire future for Deshaun. These next couple years are gunna suck. I love all Houston teams. I love my Rockets, Astros, and Texans. Sometimes it’s literal hell and I probably invest too much emotion and time into all three teams, but I’m an addict.
in that discussion neither of us are right then. The 30 for 30 on this situation will be must watch TV in a few years.
Agreed. Next years QB class is not very good though. I would rather take gamble on Wilson, personally.
That kind of sucks, especially with the way he was so adamant he didn't want a raise, and he blasted the Texans for the way they shipped him off without cause. If this was a DeAndre Hopkins thread, the vibe would be totally different. But oh well....
