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KOC: "I've been told Morey would offer Ben Simmons plus more"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pringles09, Nov 17, 2020.

  1. Loneyroy7

    Loneyroy7 Member

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    Where is your source that Philly has offered that?

    And no Thybulle is not better than Levert.
     
  2. AleksandarN

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    What two young caliber players are you talking about?
     
  3. riko

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    It’s like these people have never watched Simmons before.
     
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  4. treyk3

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    Allen or Thybulle is a toss up.

    Simmons is clearly better than all four combined.
     
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    Levert is the second best player in that package. Dude is coming off a career ruining injury. he's never going to be above replacement level again.
     
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  6. malakas

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    KAT and the Minny first pick.
    for example.
     
  7. ChillyPete32

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    The issue is the timeline and what we're looking at with a rebuild. If we had a lot of assets and young players to build around Simmons it would be one thing (though even then, Simmons is more like a top 15-20 guy rather than a top 5-10 guy). It's going to be pretty hard to make the playoffs in the west for the next few years if we tear it down and just have Ben Simmons. Our timeline is going to go out a while.
     
  8. riko

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    Did minny ever offer that?
     
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  9. T for 3

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    You have to shoot in this league man, I am sorry, but its non negotiable. I'm not saying he isn't a talented player. But they aren't magical beans, they are draft picks, that's how you build a franchise. Bringing Simmons here for Harden would be an absolute robbery. He has not proven by any stretch that he can be a Harden level talent.
     
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  10. Loneyroy7

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    Levert was just playing the best basketball of his career in the bubble right before the playoffs. What are you talking about?
     
  11. malakas

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    Maybe they did maybe they didn't.

    No reason to accept anything less.

    We wait and let the price get higher to something acceptable.

    No reason to accept any kind of lowballing from Morey and for sure the Nets.

    There many teams rich with suitable assets like the Nuggets, the Celtics, the Heat.
    Getting Harden makes one an instant contender.
     
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    and with simmons we would have somebody to matchup with luka at least
     
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  13. riko

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    A Kat and Edwards duo would have been pretty good.
     
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  14. macan

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    fuking Tilman plz take Simmons!
    i can live with that for the next 4 years or so.
     
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  15. RocketOrg

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    I agree with T for three. Simmons is good but he’s nowhere in the same ballpark as Harden. If you make that trade you better be getting three or four first round draft picks and complementary players in return. I think the Rockets to try to trade for another young star like Mitchell, Murray, or Lillard. Murray would be a dream come true. The kid was clutch in the playoffs, something we didn’t see from Harden
     
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  16. Der Rabbi

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    Ummm ... Simmons makes less $ than Tobias Harris. Tillman wants a team where no one makes any money? How good does he imagine that team would be?
     
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  17. AleksandarN

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    And drafts picks would be???
     
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    If Morey had pull within 76er org (idk if ownership would allow him to give up everything as a new hire... even though it seems obvious) he would offer the world because he's said Harden is the best player in the world.

    Simmons, Richardson, Korkmaz, 3-4 1st rd picks for Harden, Chris Clemons, 2nd rd

    Something like that.
     
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  19. AleksandarN

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    Murray is no where near the talent of Simmons
     
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  20. riko

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    That actually sounds like a fair value
     
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