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Big 12 Expansion rumors

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by tinman, Dec 7, 2014.

  1. Tenchi

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    If Boren is going to say nothing, which is what that quote means, then he should just stick with "No comment."
     
  2. LonghornFan

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    This. Please do not pay any attention to anything this ego maniac says. Complete buffoon who just needs attention when he's lonely.
     
  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Is the Big 12 over yet? Or y'all still trying to make fire with wet sticks?
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    This feels like an arranged marriage between two really sh***y families.
     
  5. J Sizzle

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    As many have said, props to A&M and Nebraska for getting out before all this nonsense.
     
  6. LonghornFan

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    Yo. What happened to LSU getting all butt hurt about the Thanksgiving day game? I haven't heard much about it. They only wanted to play at Kyle Field, not at home so they canceled it? Tha ****?

    Truly wish the guys with the cash would get our game back on Thanksgiving night.
     
  7. what

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    As I said, 40 pages ago, the big 12 is a joke. And they keep proving it.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Boren needs to quiet down and/or people need to stop paying attention to what he has said. He speaks for nobody but himself (not even the OU Regents).

    He's run his mouth and embarrassed himself ever since the whole expansion talk started.
     
  9. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Multiple sources: Big 12 expansion is gaining little ground. No school has six votes at this point, let alone the eight needed.</p>&mdash; Geoff Ketchum (@gkketch) <a href="https://twitter.com/gkketch/status/776772396678205440">September 16, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Heard from a source today that the notion of &quot;football only&quot; members being added to the Big 12 is gaining some traction.</p>&mdash; Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/776856165778989056">September 16, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-ex...cinnati-byu-uconn-david-boren-2006279271.html
     
  10. dc rock

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    I think Houston and Cincinnati will pretty consistently be in the top half of the league in football. Kids want to be in big conferences and big cities. Schools that are already at the bottom shouldn't care, just focus on basketball and enjoy the free rent.
     
  11. Ziggy

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    I think big city appeal is overblown. Plenty of great programs recruit from small towns, plenty of big city programs churn out crap.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Or Cullen Blvd. Whichever.
     
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    Outside of the PAC, almost all of the big time programs reside in small college towns.
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    All of these programs (P5 non-PAC) are in cities with populations over 300K (arbitrary cutoff, but whatevs)

    Pitt
    Miami
    Boston College
    Maryland
    Rutgers
    Texas
    LSU
    Georgia Tech
    TCU
    Ohio State
    Minnesota
    Louisville
    Vanderbilt
    Kentucky
    NC State
     
  17. ItsMyFault

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    They should just allow these schools to be added. OU and Texas can bail out later.
     
  18. Chilly_Pete

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    The problem with the big 12 and expansion is that the teams that make the big 12 a power conference aren't interested in staying in it.

    Texas and OU could easily move to some other conference, making the big 12 more of an irrelevant conference than it already is.

    I just don't see the big 12 surviving as a power conference much longer. It's going to turn into what the big east turned into and conference usa.
     
  20. Nook

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    Yes, quite possible but there is a lot more to it. UT would not exercise the kind of power they have in the Big XII in another conference. The Big X, SEC and ACC already have established power structures. That leaves the PAC or going independent. Notre Dame is learning that going independent isn't great for recruiting. I doubt UT does that. The PAC is possible but I highly doubt the conference gives them the power UT would want. So that leaves UT forming their own conference potentially, with Notre Dame as a strong possible candidate to join with OU. In that scenario most likely a number of existing Big XII teams would join them anyway.

    OU could leave the Big XII and get an invite to any of the big conferences, but the political pressure to take OK St. too will be enormous. Also OU relies strongly on Texas recruits and not playing UT, BU, TCU every year could hurt recruiting. Most likely OU goes where UT is.

    The instability and terrible leadership by UT/OU is why I view the Big XII as the fourth most appealing big conference (SEC/Big X/ACC). However the most likely scenario is the Big XII surviving in some form with Notre Dame possibly joining and 1-2 other schools poached, and schools like WVU pushed out the door.

    Regardless, it is smart for UH to try and join for many reasons. Even if the Big XII collapses, UH would be in a far better position to be absorbed by another power conference like the ACC or PAC or whatever conference UT/OU would form.

    What I can see is BU bolting for the SEC if they continue winning over the next 4-5 years. It would be a very smart move by BU and the SEC wants the Texas market and there is a power vacuum in Texas right now.
     

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