[Yahoo Sports] Adelman and the Rockets could soon agree to an amicable divorce

I find the top 5 offenses to be:

DEN
SAS
MIA
HOU
OKC

Seems like only one of those didn't make the playoffs.

 

Yes. And one of the league's top 5 defensive teams also missed the playoffs.

 

Obviously I used PPG as my indicator, in which Phoenix is fourth. What you cited seems to be more about offensive efficiency -- each person is free to use their own standards.

One out of the top 16 defenses missed the playoffs, using defensive rating. Five out of the top 16 offenses missed the playoffs. I'll take the defensive team..

 

With Rick, you don't have to choose. You just need a center who's taller than 6'6" and a PF who plays defense (unlike Scola). Seriously though, I'll take the team that has at least one all-star or 7-footer, which this Rocket team does not have and the top 16 defenses do.

 

Hola at me when a team trades us that all-star 7 footer. You and I know we have a better chance at drafting him before a team give him up. Please don't say Dwight Howard aka pipe dream.

 

Offensive efficiency is obviously more accurate because it equalizes pace. We are talking about how GOOD an offense is, not how FAST.

Houston has a much better record than Indiana even though the former did not make the playoffs while the latter did, thanks to the disparity of the conferences. If you want to be fair, use top 16 teams rather than making playoffs.

Only one top 10 offensive team (Phoenix) is not also a top 16 team. Only one top 10 defensive team (Milwaukee) is not also a top 16 team.

Both offense and defense are important. The "only defense win" cliche is a myth.

 

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "or."

 

This team doesn't need an all-star center. Just one who is half way decent and can play an entire season.

 

Ibaka was the 24th pick in the draft.

 

We better get a "Princeton" coach.

 

Right -- but Phoenix doesn't magically stop playing after they reach 100 possessions. Phoenix is fourth in the league in points per game.. I'm not going to penalize them because those points are slightly less efficient than teams behind them. Part of their strength in being a great offensive team is to push the tempo and generate more possessions. Offensive efficiency equalizes pace, but there's no rule that you SHOULD equalize pace when evaluating teams -- teams are successful with different paces.

I never said that. I said that offense is exciting but that we shouldn't overrate it. Of course you need to be a good offensive team as well to advance in the playoffs. But given the choice of being a better offensive team or defensive team, I'll still choose a defensive team every time.

Let's keep it consistent and use top 16 offensive teams and top 16 defensive teams since 16 teams make the playoffs:

Top 16 Offenses that are not amongst top 16 teams: Phoenix, Golden State, Utah, Detroit
Top 16 Defenses that are not amongst top 16 teams: Milwaukee, Indiana

Trust me, I am a Rick Adelman fan and want him back.

 

Uhh, it's commonly accepted fact that ORTG and DRTG are better than PPG in literally every single way. Nobody cares how many possessions you create because for every possession you create, you give one back. This is grade school math.

All that matters is that if I give you X amount of possessions, how many points will you score with those possessions. If you're somehow better at creating possessions, then that will show in DRTG. If you're somehow great at not turning the ball over or getting offensive rebounds, then it will show in ORTG. It is for all intents and purposes, a perfect stat. The only reason it isn't completely perfect is that it doesn't account for strength of schedule, but no stat truly does.

And your last point is completely flawed, no successful team is ever bad at either offense or defense, so who really cares whether a mediocre team "chooses" offense or defense?

 

Congrats on the grade school math. The thing is, teams play at different paces. Not everyone is the same. Remember D'Antoni's Suns? 7 seconds or less? I think "normalizing" the D'Antoni Suns pace with the grind-it-out Celtics pace doesn't do the offensive comparison justice. That's my opinion and you're free to disagree. Either way, I used Ortg in my last post with Easy comparing the top 16 teams from each grouping.

My last point wasn't flawed, but your reading comprehension is. I said given the choice of being BETTER offensively or BETTER defensively, I'd choose to be BETTER defensively. That is an opinion, not a point I was trying to make.

 

Adelman is the right man for this job!!!!! Blind not to see this.
For what is worth, Elston Turner should be the next option. No to Brown.

 

if we were tanking then why were we just a game or two out of the playoffs with 43 wins?? We're building, not rebuilding!


Easily one of the worst posts I've ever seen man!!

 

Look, Les Alexander's premise is pretty simple: he thinks the team should have had a better record than what they had considering the talent.

I agree with him, this team should have been in the playoffs as the 8-4th seed based on talent alone. How do we know this to be fact? Well the Rox went on a tear after the trade deadline with a worse roster. Adelman was just an average coach last season, he had his moments, but his fetish for Aaron Brooks and distaste for rookie like Patterson really cost the team in terms of wins. My hope is they get Elston Turner, a coach who knows the offense and will just maintain the stuff Adelman already set up, but also won't be lazy and just go for his favorites.

If they promote Turner I'm pretty sure everyone won't see any difference from Rick the ruler this year, except maybe he'll have much better decision making on the floor. Most of Adelman's "genius" lies in his coaching system, and if someone like say Turner could replicate the R&R system then Adelman becomes redundant and is replaceable.

 

For those of you who think we're close to contending, do you think we can trade or sign for a game-changing center? Do you know how many other teams out there will try to outbid us?

Do you think we won't have to give up either Martin, Scola, or even Lowry to get that quality center? And then we're back to retooling the offense and defense again?

Reeko is right. Look at the playoff contenders now. They got their franchise players through the draft. We have missed 2 years already trying to get the #8 spot. It's time to rebuild.

 

Huh? This has to be the most inaccurate, offbase, borderline delusional post in clutchfans history

Which team in the western conference playoffs do we supposedly have more talent then (Getting my popcorn ready)

 

Did you not read the article that mentioned Adelman wanted to "win now" but management wasn't focused on winning now?

Let me break it down for you.

Adelman was not tanking.
Management not interested in win now.
Adelman will be let go for a coach that will give more run to the young players and not worry about winning now.