[Y! Sports' Marc Spears on Knicks, James, Wade] These guys aren't coming, man

mike WHO?

 

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This is what I have been thinking...Gay and Boozer will make them a decent team but not anywhere near a championship level squad, while taking years to bring in good role players around those guys. Those picks will look very attractive to whoever ends up with them.

 

Well, I think they have a 50/50 shot at landing Bosh.
Joe Johnson will probably stay in Atlanta, unless they let him go.

They do however have a LEGIT shot at getting Boozer & Gay, and thats the road I think they will go for.
Gay clearly wants out and he will go where the most money is at.
Same is for Boozer.
I see them landing both Boozer and Gay, then building with veteran pieces around them. Maybe try to get a Steve Nash.

Im not sure if they'll be able to keep Lee though, but this lineup will definitely make the playoffs in the EAST:

Veteran PG
Gallinari
Gay
Boozer
Lee or Veteran C

Thats a 6th seed in the East IMO. Which would give the Rockets a top 17 pick which I would love to have.

 

Joe Johnson is Arn Tellem's client. For Arn to do the armtwisting with Walsh to get Walsh to give up the draft picks for McGrady indicates to me that he told Walsh he is going to push Joe Johnson to the Knicks. I suspect this has to be the case.

So, the scenario unfolds. Joe Johnson signed and traded to the Knicks. Atlanta gets a huge trade exception plus possibly a draft pick. Maybe the Knicks get lucky and get the top pick and have a backcourt of Wall and Johnson. But at least they get Joe Johnson and probably another player out of the draft, probably a big if they do not land Wall. Still spells mediocrity unless they get Bosh, Amare, or another premier FA.

 

I think two 2nd tier free agents might be good enough to get them close to the playoffs.

 

I don't think they will have the cap space to sign 2 Max and David Lee. So if they get two max guys lets just say Gay Boozer....

Gay Boozer plus a bunch of min contracts doesn't equal a playoff team.. even in the East.

 

The knicks getting Johnson and Boozer would be the best case scenario for us. Sure, they'd be pretty good for the east, but their defense would simply be awful. We might still get a good pick out of them. Plus, taking Boozer would weaken Utah, which is a plus any way you slice it.

 

Utah couldn't care less about Boozer. They will get Favors or Cousins.. And at worst they could land Wall

 

Strange situation for Tellem. Joe Johnson gets more exposure from NY but more money in Atlanta. I'm sure he'll try to engineer an S&T, but the Knicks have nothing at all to offer.

 

that pick belongs to the Utah JAZZHOLES.....

--RB

 

Gay is a RFA, even if he wants to leave Memphis it will be up to them.

It's entirely possible they make a offer to Gay....Grizz wait until the last second to match said offer...and Knicks only end up with Boozer.

Who knows if Joe Johnson will resign with the Hawks, they are doing pretty good right now, a playoff run and no way he leaves that team for New York.

 

Saying the Knicks suck so they won't get those are guys isn't saying much. Of course they suck now but if they can somehow convince two of those guys to come to New York they would not suck.

Let's not act like LeBron's supporting cast is great. Well actually with the addition to Jamison it has improved, but I wouldn't rule out NY yet. I still think he will stay in Cleveland.

If NY can get Joe Johnson/Boozer or Joe Johnson/Amare we most likely won't get a good pick with their pick because they are in the East and the East doesn't seem to be improving.

 

Gay is not getting a max contract. Boozer either. If any team gives either one of these guys a max deal, you can bank on it, they are stuck in mediocrity. These guys will not play well enough or influence their team enough to justify a max salary. Once James, Wade, Bosh, and Joe Johnson have gotten theirs, all the rest of the players are going to be looking at limited purses. Nobody wants to sign any players outside of James, Wade, Bosh, and possibly Joe Johnson by themselves. They will want to sign them as a pairing with one of James, Wade, and Bosh primarily.

The money in the league is too tight right now. Amare is going to fly away to Miami once Wade re-signs. Max guys Lebron, Wade, probably Joe Johnson, Chris Bosh, and maybe Amare....if Miami really wants him. I don't think most teams will even offer Amare the max. Boozer and Rudy Gay???? Come on man. Those guys are second to third tier stars. There's a dozen Rudy Gays in the league....maybe two dozen. I wouldn't even trade Kevin Martin for him. And Martin is making $10 million per. Whoever pays Gay $10 million or more is foolish. Boozer??? Another second to third tier star. He shouldn't get as much as Millsap is making based on his age and his need to be surrounded by other star/superstar players to be effective.

 

You're right. Thanks for correcting that. Knicks are looking at Joe Johnson and Tracy McGrady next season. And frankly, I don't see them bring back McGrady.

 

And the good news is if they do happen to work out a S&T, then the NYKs will be an even worse team by trading away some of the few good pieces they do have which means better picks for us!

 

You're scenario is impossible, unless David Lee signs for the vet minimum or Gay and Boozer split a max contract.

Expand your NBA cap knowledge by reading BimaThug posts.

 

i thought it was well-understood that Utah is getting NY's 1st rounder this year.

 

Doubt Gay & Boozer will get Max contracts.

However, is Lee happy in NY? Or will he bolt?