Wow just wow: GOP congressman Tim Murphy opposed abortion, until his mistress said she was pregnant

They just say whatever they need to say to get elected. It's not the Congressmen that are the problem necessarily, it's the money and the ignorant public that influence those Congressmen. You basically get what you deserve as a society and right now that's no health care and generally ignorant policy all around.

 

wow, just wow. i can't believe you're surprised when a religious person practices do as i say not as i do.

it's rude to ask a person's age so instead please answer the following question, where do you think tooth fairy money comes from? have you ever watch a R-rated movie? can you legally purchase alcohol?

 

I'm proud to be an American, at least I know I'm freeeEEee!!

 

Constituents should be able to expect their officials to live by their values

 

At least this time it's not the anti gay marriage GOP congressman caught in a public bathroom with another man.

How much sewage that Trump spews on a weekly basis does he believe himself?? Based on your message probably about 15%.

 

But but but but utbutbut he he'll he'll drain the swamp!!

YULE C U HYPOCRITES

 

something even worse than hypocrisy is the killing of unborn children

 

That's what this guy wanted to do and yet you attack liberals while defending your man.

 

To what degree should we expect an elected official to personally believe in the policies they endorse? Is their responsibility to do their job as per their own conscience, or as per the will of their constituents that elected them to office?

I feel it has to be some mixture of the two, but I don't know which outweighs the other. Ultimately, they are professional advocates for a set of positions that appeal to their voters. How much they actually personally care about them is, it could be argued, beside the point.

 

I think when you stake out a moral position and say abortions are mostly wrong and so on... You are representing yourself not just as an advocate but as a moral authority and a person who shares the belief of your constituents.

Abortion is a moral issues but a policy one. I think something should be done about global warming but I drive a car for instance. My position on global warming is not a moral one but rather a rational policy position. If it was a moral one, in which I said out was evil to spew co2 into the atmosphere and yet I personal had a high carbon footprint then I would deserve ridicule.

 

Then no politician should ever be elected.

Most politicians only follow the party line to get elected. The reality is if a person really cares about what they believe, they will be most beneficial in their community. The higher up one goes the more likely they are in it for the power and attention. Good portion of Americans recognize this and this is is why they have little trust in Washington.

 

I don't look to people in Washington as moral authorities on anything. I'm sure many are fine people, but they should be viewed as "representatives" of the people. This is especially true for lower-house congressmen.

 

Story gave me a good LOL, if only because it's hilarious to me how someone in his position would put something like that in writing. Use a damn burner phone paid for in cash, you moron. Has House of Cards taught you nothing?

 

Color me surprised.

 

i think he's saying i don't care if he's a hypocrite, or if he's even a liberal or a criminal, or a jack ass, or ______ as long as he vote against abortion

 

What a load of complete and utter nonsense.

Takiing part in a moral crusade to enforce your moral godliness on all women necessarily means that you posit that you are doing it not because it's politically expedient but because you feel it's morally correct - which leaves very little room to do that same immoral thing - ever. That's the definition of morals.

Not very well thought through @durvasa

Not very well thought through at all.

 

Did you vote for him? He is attracting votes on moral grounds not policy points.

I didn't realize you are so Machiavellian by the way. Are you saying that you don't care about the personal opinions of your representatives - just on the way they will vote? So if Trump aligned with your policy positions, you would be happy with him even if he did everything else wrong?

 

Well, I have a couple of things to say about the congressman. Either he doesn't believe abortion is the murder of babies or he does believe it and is willing to murder when he becomes inconvenienced.

 

It is not only the money and the ignorant public. It seems like high office attracts and rewards only the biggest assholes.